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Magnuson vs. Harrop vs. Whipple - Supercharger showdown

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by 1UP, Dec 24, 2020.

  1. Dec 24, 2020 at 5:51 PM
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    1UP

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    As the title says, i am looking for a comparison of the 3. I would like to buy mine next year and haven't found much when it comes to making a decision between the three.

    Anyone here have links to stats?
     
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  2. Dec 24, 2020 at 6:52 PM
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    Getting it tuned or using a canned tune?
    A tvs2650 ( harrop ) is bigger then a tvs1900 ( magnuson ) both are roots chargers, whipple is a twin screw charger so will be more 'efficient' and capable of making big numbers.

    Both the harrop and whipple are easier to install, you don't have to mess with u-joints or wrenches on the intake bolts. The harrop will make more power then the magnuson with lower psi and heat gain, the whipple will make more power than the harrop. With the whipple, your make boost in the charger case itself ( more efficient) but that gain is offset by lower fuel economy, a roots can bypass boost and therefore you dont lose as much fuel economy.

    The magnuson is a 'proven' charger...their canned tunes are proven on older tundras and closest to just a bolt-on and go.

    If money is no object i would get the whipple and a custom tune, less cost would be a harrop with a canned tune, either way i would NOT get a magnuson, i hate my intake bolts everytime i need to remove them ( coupler replacement or charger refresh )
     
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  3. Dec 24, 2020 at 7:21 PM
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    Thanks for the thorough answer. Surprised to hear the Magnuson is the “proven” one while also the one you’d avoid. I’d love to supercharge my 5.7 but don’t want to shorten the lifespan of the drivetrain or kill mpg. In your opinion, is the supercharger worth that extra cost? It’s gotta be a blast to drive, right?
     
  4. Dec 24, 2020 at 7:47 PM
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    I have the TRD supercharger, way back when it was the only one available, anytime you boost an n/a engine you will shorten the lifespan of the drivetrain, the more you get on it, the more stress you are putting it thru. Having said that, there are 200k+ miles boosted tundras on supercharged tundras facebook page, mine only has 90k miles on the charger 160k miles total, i did not lose any mpg. 10 years ago when it was 5k for a trd kit i would/did put one on, mostly for towing.

    It is nice when you want to pass or need the extra power but i also have a dog slow lx470 that couldnt get out of its own way....you just adjust your driving, cant pass the big rig now....wait for a longer stretch of road etc etc. I prefer the lx470 in road trips even if it is slower.

    It is your money, if the $7-10k makes you smile and happy then do it ! For that type of money today, i would buy a corrola/prius/camry to commute and park the tundra for home depot runs or road trips. Or if you dont mind wrenching and fixing stupid problems ( never in a toyota it seems) get an infiniti g35 / g37 to commute...
     
  5. Dec 24, 2020 at 8:45 PM
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    If your biggest complaint with the magnuson is the bolts needing a little extra time, every 30-100k when the blower or coupler needs maintenance, that doesn't seem like a big deal personally.
     
  6. Dec 24, 2020 at 9:33 PM
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    Just pointing out a difference in design, it is the most proven so many will gravitate to that, but newer chargers pump more air and are more efficient, are easier to work on, have more ultimate power potential and do not cost much more. Would i replace my trd with a whipple? No, but if i was to install on a new tundra i would get a whipple.
     
  7. Dec 25, 2020 at 4:59 AM
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    Your mpg goes down cause your foot will get heavier, smile will get bigger, and the wife will get louder.
     
  8. Dec 25, 2020 at 8:05 AM
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  9. Dec 25, 2020 at 8:24 AM
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    The wait for Whipple to come out with a completed 2019 kit with a tune is killing me.....
     
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  10. Dec 25, 2020 at 9:01 AM
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    Thank you for sharing your experience. I was leaning towards Harrop when they came out with the stage 2 for 2019s. Nice to see im not far off.
     
  11. Dec 25, 2020 at 9:02 AM
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    I don't disagree with the logic, but I don't commute. Buying this is actually my attempt to not go out and get another E46 M3.
     
  12. Dec 25, 2020 at 10:01 AM
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  13. Dec 25, 2020 at 10:07 AM
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  14. Dec 25, 2020 at 10:17 AM
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    In... :popcorn:

    Here with a fresh '21 and I previously had a boosted Taco. I needs me some go fast.
     
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  15. Dec 26, 2020 at 6:16 PM
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    This is a good thread. I would love to see a dyno graph with the 3 blowers on it. I’m looking for the most usable power under the curve, not necessarily the most peak hp and tq.
     
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  16. Dec 26, 2020 at 6:36 PM
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    And 93 octane costs 30% more than 87.
     
  17. Dec 27, 2020 at 5:53 AM
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    I already use premium cause it doesn’t have ethanol in my area. Probably doesn’t make a difference, but I don’t want ethanol in my truck. Or mower or generator.

    When I had a sc truck, my mpg was crap because I liked to take off and hear the whine. If not for that, mpg would’ve probably been the same.
     
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  18. Dec 27, 2020 at 8:20 AM
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    Premium is part of affording a boosted truck...if you're worried about affording the fuel, do NOT consider a SC'r...reminds me of MC Hammer's want for a Lambo...not trying to bash but these are all considerations when eyeing the boosted way...don't do it unless your truck is paid off...then your worries become much less.

    Non ethanol fuels are great...or just e85...not the blends...
     
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    If someone is worried about affording the fuel, they shouldn’t be driving a tundra.
     
  20. Dec 27, 2020 at 10:56 AM
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    Second this
     
  21. Dec 28, 2020 at 11:08 AM
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    Hello,

    Give Keith Carty of Dirty Deeds Industries a call on these superchargers. He knows everything about them. His number is 760-877-4234.

    Thanks, Shawna
     
  22. Dec 28, 2020 at 11:29 AM
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    At stock pulley size they will all make the same horsepower, so if you are not going to be pushing for maximum performance, get the cheapest one (Magnuson).
    I had several Magnuson/TRD blowers on my Tundras and they are fine, but I maxed it out at 14 PSI and needed something more, so went with a Harrop.
    Now my truck hits 20+ PSI boost and still has room to grow.
    Whipple may or may not have a slight advantage, but it just came out this year and nobody pushed it anywhere past stock boost yet on the Tundra.
     
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    I dont disagree. It will be paid off around the summer of 21, then i search for the correct deal and buy the SC.
     
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  24. Dec 28, 2020 at 12:13 PM
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    Thanks Shawna. I already bought yalls 8 inch exhaust system. Love it. I'll call him in 21 when I'm a little closer to actually pulling the trigger.
     
  25. Dec 28, 2020 at 12:16 PM
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    Does stage 2 for harrop swap the pully and thats the difference?
     
  26. Dec 28, 2020 at 12:24 PM
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    Whatever this forum told me to do
    Pulley swap & larger injectors. needs a tune tho

    I'm in the process of getting the Harrop.
     
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  27. Dec 28, 2020 at 1:32 PM
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    Yes, 80mm top pulley instead of the 85 mm stock one and 650 cc injectors.
    You can go down to 75, 70 or 65 mm pulley from Harrop or get a 62 mm Griptec from ZPE.
     
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  28. Jan 4, 2021 at 7:31 AM
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    Whatever this forum told me to do
    What PSI can a stock 2020 5.7 take before you have to start strengthening the internals?

    stage 1 Harrop - no tune...is 7psi? Stage 2 is 8.5 psi?
     
  29. Jan 4, 2021 at 8:23 AM
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    There is no precise answer to this.
    Some blow up at 5 psi, some hold 10 no problem.
    Depends a lot on how much timing and fuel you throw at it.
     
  30. Jan 4, 2021 at 8:28 AM
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    I know nothing about supercharging/PSI/etc except the little bit I've read here. I was kicking around the idea of supercharging, but if I need to know all about PSI & tuning & fuel mixture & blah blah, jeez forget it. I don't want to blow up the truck from ignorance. I thought getting it tuned and using the tuner presets took care of all that stuff.
     

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