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Larger Std Load Range Tires?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by pyoung62, Feb 4, 2024.

  1. Feb 4, 2024 at 10:52 AM
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    I have a 1794 with no lift, no spacers, OEM wheels, and want to increase the tire size from the OEM 265/60R20 which look so small in the wheel well. I don’t want an AT tire, just M/S. I don’t go offroad othen than some rough forest service roads, and we don’t have much in the way of winter in central NC either. But…I’m not willing to sacrifice the ride and MPG by going to an E load range tire. A 285/65 or 275/65 would be ideal and make a huge difference aesthetically, but other than the Pirelli and Nitto AT tires, there seem to be no other choices in a std. load range. Anyone found something else? Searching this forum, Tire Rack, and Discount are not showing me anything out there.
     
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    This is the tire you should buy. Michelin 275/60/20 LTX MS2. They will look much more muscular and fill out the wheel well opening. I have owned five sets over the years and they are quiet, smooth riding, good rain and snow traction and last 60-70k miles. I got 80k out of a couple sets. Best truck/suv tire I have ever owned. Worth every penny you will pay for them.
     
  3. Feb 4, 2024 at 11:40 AM
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    I’ve owned more than one set of those, and agree with your opinion 100%. Some of the best tires I’ve owned. But that’s not a big enough increase in size from my 265/60’s to justify the expense before these OEM Yokohamas wear out.
     
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    Seems everyone is going bigger O.D. 275/60 to 295/60... I'd rather go to a 275/55 or 285/55 as I want to keep the original O.D and just do a plus size.
    So the O.P. wants more O.D. then do alot of searching as it's all over this forum.
    All I see in thise sizes are load range E so I would never go that route IMO.
    https://www.tundras.com/threads/at-tire-size-for-stock-23-platinum.126687/

    I did read somewhere here that a P load range does exist in the bigger O.D.
     
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    They aren’t cheap so I understand. A lot of the new F150s and some Rams come with that size standard. You might want to look at some installed. They look significantly meatier than the oem tires you have now.
     
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    I’ll likely go that route when these wear Yokohamas wear out. But in order to justify replacing them before then, they need to be more than just one size up.
     
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    I’ve searched long and wide but haven’t found anything that wasn’t an E except for the Pirelli and Nitto ATs. But that’s too aggressive a tread for road use IMO.
     
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    275/60/20 is the best size to go to in a P-rated tire without the weight and harsh ride of an E-rated tire. It's a slight upgrade in size from 32.7" to 33" but it looks much more meaty. I am super happy with my Goodyear Wrangler Ultra Terrain AT so far. 3-peak mountain snowflake, more weight capacity than stock, still quiet, smooth, good gas mileage, and soft riding.
     
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    Have you driven much gravel or chip and seal? If so... do they hold and throw rocks? I was looking at these as an option and have heard may complaints of being rock throwers.
     
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    I drive very little on gravel roads so I don't have great experience there.
     
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    TRD wheels, skid plate, black fender flares, mud flaps and running boards. Pirelli Scorpion 275/70/20 Allterrain Plus tires
    Here are Pirellis mounted if you end up considering them.
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    What size are these?
     
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    That is exactly the tire I want. But I have the 18" wheels and there are no road oriented tires in this width and 65 or 70 cross section (to maintain ~ stock diameter) in 18" wheel size that aren't all terrain tread or LT/load range E.

     
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    I went with the 275 60R20 Falken Wildpeaks A/T4W on my stock 1794 truck with air suspension and avs. Truck looks great and rides far better. Mpg drop is negligible at two to three %. Tire fits the well much better. IMG_4890.jpg IMG_4886.jpg IMG_4890.jpg
     
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    Biggest standard load tires I have seen are 275/70r18s, but these had pretty bad tread depth. 17” rims have alot of Load C versions since that is a common Jeep/Tacoma size.
     
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    Do some comparisons on Tire Rack...Pirelli makes the Scorpion in 275/65/20 came stock on Rivian 34 inch od. Lots of options in a 275/60/20...I like the Yokohama G015...not noisy, looks kinda aggressive 3peak rated and barely heavier than stock...takes you to a true 33 inch tire. Scorpions weigh 48 lbs. Yoko's 45, your stocks about 40. The Yokohamas tested very well too and are great in anything but mud and hold their own against more aggressive looking tires. Also way less $$$
     
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    The jump from 265/60 ~ 285/60 isn't much as you stated but 295/60 is pretty significant,almost 1.5" in OD and 1-1/8" in with.
    I have used tool and found it helpful, tacomaworld.com tire size calculator.
    And purchased tires from Simple tire it was really easy,once you lock in what you want type in your zip code and it will show you 10 different establishments willing to do the install and alignment.
    Good luck

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    For what it's worth anything over a 275 width on an 8 inch rim is going to get floaty on the street
     
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    i went with the oem size tire in a std load goodyear duratrac. specs are in my sig.

    std load gets you a 55k mile warranty :)

    any LT tire size will not come with a mileage warranty.

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    FYI…Michelin now makes a 275/65R20 Defender LTX M/S 2 in an XL load range now. That’s only one step up from a standard load range and they only weigh 42# each. Mine are on the way from Tire Rack.
     
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    You’re right. Interesting:

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/michelin-defender-ltx-m-s2
     
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    For those of us looking for a larger option but don’t need or want an aggressive AT tire and aren’t willing to put an E tire on there, it’s nice to now have a good option. I’ve had the LTX before and it’s a great tire.
     
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    I went with the 275/60/20 Falken AT4. 33” on the nose, looks great on the truck. No ragrets.
     
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    The Michelin Defender 275/65R20 installed. This is what they should have rolled off the production line with. Excuse the dirty truck. Nice smooth, quiet ride. Don’t know about mileage yet, but I don’t expect too much much of a hit. They’re XL load range, not E, and only weigh 42#.
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    Which Pirelli Scorpions are these? I can’t seem to find the exact ones online. Are they SL, XL, or E Load Rated?
     
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    currently have the 275/60/r20 defenders which are 33" and much better then stock OEM. Will be moving up to these when i get a little use out of current set. They didn't offer that size when I moved from the OEMs.
     
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    Yeah, Michelin shows them as “new”. I’m seeing about a 1.5mpg hit. But then when you compensate for the roughly 5% larger circumference, it’s only about half that. I’m perfectly satisfied with that. Looks way better filling up the wheel well, and the wet grip is so much batter that the OEM Yokohamas.
     
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    All Terrain Plus. Std Load. I didn’t want E load range because assumed ride would be harsh.
     
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