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Is 3.5" too much lift for stock UCAs?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by KLLVMDCL, Mar 19, 2019.

  1. Mar 19, 2019 at 3:36 AM
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    KLLVMDCL

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    thinking of adding a .5" spacer on top of the Toytec/Eibach coilovers with 3.5" Max Trac spindles. Are the stock UCAs capable of compensating for that much lift?
     
  2. Mar 19, 2019 at 4:27 AM
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    If you’re adding a taller spindle, then that should put you back within limits of the UCA.
     
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    Don’t add the spacer. Those things are garbage. You’re better off in the long run by adding a spindle or doing a bracket lift. Just my .02 cents.
     
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    I'm at 3" up front. UCAs needed. My truck wanders all over the road; Caster is in the red, alignment is maxed. I'm installing UCAs today. @KLLVMDCL I would install UCAs when you install your suspension. I went with SPCs from @BOSS4x4s
     
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    I'm at 3" no UCA needed all of my alignment numbers are inspect. That just goes to show that each truck can vary.
    Avoid adding a spacer ....
     
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    Not how these spindles work. They retain stock geometry, just lowers the mounting point of the hub.

    3.5 of lift on the a arms is going to ride like crap. You’re not going to have much down travel
     
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    That’s essentially the same thing. Lower hub equals a taller spindle. Spindle lifts are meant to maintain factory geometry.

    That’s assuming this is a 2wd truck, which I imagine it is. A 4wd with a new taller spindle would still need a crossmember drop to keep cv axles in line.
     
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    Yes on the 4wd example.

    Yes he has a 2wd. But the actual distance between uca and lca mounts on a lift spindle is exactly the same as a stock spindle.

    It does not correct any uca angle. That is done only through length/strength/preload of the shock/spring.

    Even aftermarket uca’s do not correct the angle, they have a more flexible joint at the spindle to have more range of motion
     
  9. Mar 19, 2019 at 5:05 PM
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    A little of this and a little of that.
    Don't do spacers!
     
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    the spacer im referring to is the coachbuilder .5". I figured the consensus on those was that they were harmless in comparison to the 2.5" hunks
     
  11. Mar 19, 2019 at 7:08 PM
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    The spacer really isnt that big of a deal from a saftey aspect. How much height do you have out of your toytec co’s?

    And do you have uca’s too?
     
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  12. Mar 19, 2019 at 7:22 PM
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    the coilovers are set to 3", 3.5 on the spindles, and stock ucas
     
  13. Mar 19, 2019 at 7:33 PM
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    Thats pretty tall. Is half inch going to make that much of an improvement in looks?

    I would get a floor jack and see how much down travel you have currently
     
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  14. Mar 19, 2019 at 9:56 PM
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    Ahh my bad. I should have paid closer attention. In my defense, I literally spent Sunday cutting out 4” spacers out of a Tundra because they are garbage. The “spacers” from coach builder are more commonly referred to as Shims. I immediately assumed giant monster things.

    Like some other have asked, what are you trying to accomplish? Generally stacking lifts and mix/matching parts just leads to poor suspension performance or damage.
     
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  15. Mar 19, 2019 at 10:54 PM
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    youre right, I should have said shim instead.

    so without getting into too much detail, my current measurements are 37" in front 40" rear. I want 1-2" of cali lean with a 6-7" total lift in front. my plan was to do max trac spindles+toytec coilvers+.5 shim in front and 3" blocks and fox shocks in rear. for a total of 44" in front and 43" in rear
     
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    i have the same thing as you on front of my 2wd tundra. my uca are stock and i wanted to replace them with aftermarket one. but most of them say 2-4 lift on them. will they work for our setup. since the spindles retaon stock geometry. or it will be fine since the added strut lenght to 3"
     

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