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If I buy the 2021 instead of 2022, will the 5.7 litre be worthless in 10 years?

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  1. Oct 22, 2021 at 7:18 PM
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    I am on the fence with 2021 .and have deposits still on both
    I love a lot about the 5.7 litre ..but the gas hog is a short term concern aswell as a resale concern..
    Do you think the 5.7 will be worth anything in 10-15 years..
    The way fuel prices are going .I think it could be like some Road warrior crap going on..trying to get fuel..
    Although a big blower sticking out of a 21 would be friking cool
     
  2. Oct 22, 2021 at 7:37 PM
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    Fuel delete mod Cup holder upgrade
    The way this world is changing today it would be hard to predict what will happen 10 to 15 years from now.
     
  3. Oct 22, 2021 at 7:39 PM
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    Great point,It was more of a thought provoking question than anything
    Maybe i will just keep my 2009 GMC.
    We may all be on bicycles in 15 years
     
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    It’ll be a collectors item then.
    Hasn’t slowed down the sales of carbureted cars.
     
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    If, in 10 years time, gasoline is $8/gal, and I finally decide to get rid of my old beloved Tundra, I am quite sure there will still be a market of older upper-middle-class guys who pine for the “glory days” of big v8s in their Toyotas. They will still give me a great price for my well-cared-for truck.
     
  6. Oct 22, 2021 at 8:16 PM
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    With how much better NA V8's are at towing there will be a market for them for years to come. I could easily see the 5.7 and others of the current era becoming like pre-2013 diesels. Go check out those prices, they're insane. Hybrids and turbos are no better at towing, the F150 has shown this, and electric trucks will always have range issues - until they get 1000 mile empty ranges.
     
  7. Oct 22, 2021 at 8:34 PM
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    Pretty sure the V8 will still be running strong in 10-15 years; a hybrid battery pack and turbos?…suspect one/both will need replacement by that 10-15 year mark. I’d prefer to choose a technology and commit…go gas, go electric, go turbo performance…not try to combine all 3.
     
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    Look at history, electric vehicles have been in the works for a very long time. Yeah they sold a few. Whoopie! Gasoline isn't going anywhere.
     
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    It’s not v8 which will make the truck extinct. It’s the soy based wiring…
     
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  11. Oct 23, 2021 at 5:19 AM
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    Rodents like to eat the insulation. Implying the wire harnesses will be devoured over time. Maybe so, especially as older trucks are sold, wrecked, inherited, etc.
     
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    Yes, but so will all fossil fuel engines as we zip around in our flying trucks powered by solar cells.

    Seriously - think about it for a second. How long has the V8 been used in autos? Big 3 still use them and you think just because Toyota opted to drop it from the lineup - the entire market view will change?? It’s much more likely that Toyota is both opting to take advantage of lower production cost by offering a single power plant AND guessing that their consumer base will agree with the choice and not jump ship to another brand.

    It’s a gamble on their part and honestly one likely worth making. The WORLD truck market is more than the USA and the US is likely the biggest holdout on V8s. So worst case they lose a few in the US - picking up hundreds of dollars on ever unit sold here and everywhere else easily covers the lost sales - if they even feel it for a few years given capacity constraints and demand for new trucks in general.
     
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    While not ideal - stupider things have been done historically in vehicles.

    As they fail - the market finds ways to replace and keep the vehicle running - so long as the solution is cheaper than a new vehicle - innovation will find a way.
     
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    In the 80's there was the gas shortage and the big 3 pushed things like a 4 cylinder Mustang Cobras. They proclaimed the end of the 8 cylinder back then...here we are repeating the history.
     
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    Why does everyone feel price of gas will skyrocket in a decade ?

    I predict the opposite actually….less gas required due to more efficient vehicles and more EVs on the road - lower demand for gas.

    The infrastructure for drilling/refining is already there - much like other declining industries- they have no choice but to keep working to try and survive a little longer.

    There will be more pollution taxes - but gas will likely be equal or lower adjusted for inflation over the next 10/20/40 years.
     
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    Funny you bring that up. Do you know, no one makes bicycle tires in the united states?
    Reagan thought that was insane as if a large conflict broke out and laid waist to the automotive industry, we would have to use bicycles to get around.
    Guess where bicycle tires are made? China....
     
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    I always thought it’s our high consumption of gasoline that keeps the price low in the US compared to other countries. We buy in bulk, so to speak.

    If we stop buying in bulk and it becomes more of a novelty, I would expect prices to go up as the industry attempts to maintain some kind of profit margin.

    Also, as “cleaner” energy sources become more popular (and I use the scare quotes because it won’t matter if it’s actually cleaner in the long run; just that it’s branded that way for the end consumer), gasoline will be viewed increasingly negative, and people will be more likely to support added carbon footprint taxes for fossil fuels.

    Over time (>10 years in the future), operating a gasoline engine car might increasingly become a recreational activity for select upper-middle-class folk, similar to owning and operating a small airplane now.
     
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    NO. Chevy just released its all new line up. AT4x and the Premium GMC both have V8s. A V8 won't be worthless. I could even see where a 2022 Tundra will be worth less than a 2021 Tundra. Ram and Ford still offer V8s.

    The V6 non hybrid only gets 5 mpg more than the V8. This isn't some "world beating" difference.

    On a side note, the new GMCs released this week are gorgeous and the new Tundra is hideous. Chevy completely crushed Toyota in offerings and visuals and I think the timing of their release was 100% intentional.
     
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    We have this life form as Governor running CA at the moment. He is trying to outlaw gas lawnmowers at present.
    Ten years from now, we will have cleaned out these various life forms and put humans back into control.
    Things will be righted and gas will be in abundance and far cheaper than it is today.
    The lunacy of Global warming or whatever they rename it to will be exposed for the giant financial rob job that is fleecing this country.
    V8s will go on long after we leave this place to our grandkids.
     
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    It will take much longer than 10 years or maybe couple more generations to get used to the lifeless sound of electric or hybrid cars/engines ... Unless they play a nice V8 engine sound over the speakers. lol I heard Mustang did that. Is that true?

    I rushed to buy my '16 thinking V8 is going away soon. I was only 5 years off. :D
    I would still buy a '21 over '22 and you can buy a small lawnmower engine or prius, etc. for commuting.
     
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    My opinion witch isn’t worth much I think the Tundra will always have a decent following. I personally would get 2022 if I was in the market for a new truck just a sucker for something new. I like the new pro.

    I do love my 5.7 it’s been great truck….not great on fuel but its only marginally worse the than our last 2014 Ram

    Factoring in all the unexpected repairs on my last Ram my cost of Owning and operating my 2016 Tundra I am still way way ahead even if it cost a bit more on fuel.

    Then there’s the EV’s that are not even a option for many.
    This movement to total green energy is just another failure …here in Canada gas Engines will not be sold after 2035 in cars or trucks that’s only 14 years away …..climate change is real and I am for making change … 5.7’s future is definitely a unknown but one thing we know it probably one of the best Engines out there and what ever you decide enjoy…both will be a good trucks
     
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    You can't read into the news too much. Fear sells, and hey, we are all reading it. Besides, you'll drive yourself nuts.

    As far as the 5.7 goes, I would imagine it would be more valuable. Generally people who buy pickups are not as concerned about fuel mileage. Look at the value of the V8 Raptors now (V8 discontinued). I have my chips on the 5.7.
     
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    It will take much longer than 10 years or maybe couple more generations to get used to the lifeless sound of electric or hybrid cars/engines ... Unless they play a nice V8 engine sound over the speakers. lol I heard Mustang did that. Is that true?

    I rushed to buy my '16 thinking V8 is going away soon. I was only 5 years off. :D
    I would still buy a '21 over '22 and you can buy a small lawnmower engine or prius, etc. for commuting.[/QUOTE]


    There's other options for sound.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwaXjtRybhI
     
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    Again - the V8 is 15% less efficient.

    Not 1500, not 150, not even 50% more efficient.

    So your cost to operate will be 15% higher - let’s assume gas hits $10 a gallon - with that price hike everyone will be driving less - but let’s say you drive 12k miles a year and cannot drive less.

    14 MPG is roughy 850 gallons per year at with 12k = $8500 yearly

    17 MPG is roughly 700 gallons per year at 10 per gallon = $7000

    So if gas touches 3 times the national average than it is now - you will “save” 15k over 10 years owning a 2022 10 years from now.

    How much more will that 2022 cost to upgrade today - my guess, about the same 15k as you will have saved at $10 gas. Of course every day has stays at half that price - you lose $$. And in 2032 I’m sure neither a ‘21 or ‘22 will be “cutting edge” tech wise.

    Obsolete - no, hell I have gas powered tractors from the 40s that see regular use. There are plenty of more powerful diesel options out there - but it comes down to cost. I can buy decent gas models for a 1/3 of the price - parts are plentiful and it does what it needs to do - maybe a little slower and maybe not as powerful - but it’s not obsolete - because the price is right. If a horse were cheaper to maintain - you’d see more people than the Amish using them too - cost determines obsolescence.
     
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    Not quite - gas in EU for example as most of Western Europe isn’t exactly oil rich. The US isn’t independent - but we do have access to quite a lot of oil domestically and even more just to our North that can be shipped easily and with very few taxes. The Middle East by comparison doesn’t have those pipelines into the EU like we do with Canada and domestically. It’s not as easy for them to build as it would involve crossing multiple countries and everyone wants “their cut”.

    We also have refining capacity that enables us to produce more and sell it cheaply giving us that “bulk” discount - bucks aside from that we have the infrastructure to get it from that refining operation along side the ocean somewhere into a pipe that hauls it into the Central US and doesn’t make us rely on trucks to take it everywhere. Sending fuel 5k gallons at a time isn’t all that efficient it turns out vs turning on a tap and just letting it flow.
     
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