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Hauling Welding Cylinders

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by AlrightAlrightAlright, Jan 29, 2021.

  1. Jan 29, 2021 at 2:20 PM
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    Does anybody have a good solution for (occasionally) holding two 125# welding cylinders in a truck bed? I have a retractable cover so I can’t go all the way to the cab. I was wondering if somebody had some sort of deck rail setup that might work.

    If not, I was thinking of fabbing up a simple, drop in “welding cart” type of setup with sheet metal semi-circles and clamps put together in a rack. I’d still have to secure it, but at least the cylinders would be manageable.
     
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    What are you doing with them ? If your just hauling them to get filled make a simple cradles with 2X4's and throw a strap over them
     
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    Just hauling to fill and occasional transport to nearby cities (3 hour drive) to be off loaded and used. Didn’t even think about wood, what a dumba** I am! Can these go horizontal? I thought they had to be vertical for transport. Nearest refill place is about 45 minutes from my house.
     
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    Lay them in the bed horizontally, strap them down. Ensure cap is installed and good to go. That’s the real danger is if a valve gets busted off.
     
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    There is a huge safety reason why pressurized tanks are stowed vertically. If you get in an accident the tanks don't become torpedoes. Check your state's safety regs.
     
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    No they are not to be transported horizontally or in the trunk of a car.
    https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/regulations/standardnumber/1926/1926.350

    You would be surprised what people think is ok. Till you watch videos of what happens when shit goes south. Strap 1/3 and 2/3 cylinder height. If you could get the cart to not move in any direction you may be ok.
     
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    Seems like they’d make a regulation transport rack with that safety concern.
     
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    No worries. Also depending on your supply store they may reject filling if you show up in an unsafe situation(our stores wouldn’t touch a cylinder if they showed up in a car).
     
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    We use mass quantities of nitrogen to calibrate the accelerometers on our automated work station and also for our pressure standards. Never ever stow high pressure cylinders horizontally. Never. Airgas delivers our tanks. Always vertical. Just sayin
     
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    I don’t know how people just transport in regular vehicles without a rack. I worked on the bulk side(liquid Cryo). All the people I would see had E Trac. But those were usually not in trucks unless they had a commercial type bed.
     
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    Been there. Toyota Camry with a sunroof didn’t suffice so they turned me around. Tough times and living check to check back then, I had to ask a friend with a truck.
     
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    A few years ago a friend of mine showed me a video that his friend posted on IG. He had found a cylinder while out drifting like an idiot in the snow. He tossed it in his trunk then opened and closed the valve like it was nitrous. I said call that retard right now. He’s about to kill himself. The sticker was scratched. But by color and labels I knew it was from my old company....and acetylene.

    He thought he could sell it for a couple hundred bucks.

    Every once in a while I would need something from a branch store so I would go in. Those guys always have stories of people transporting in cars, without caps or clamshells...etc.
     
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    Pressurized cylinders can be transported and stored horizontally with the proper equipment. We have 125 cubic foot cylinders horizonal in our ambulances. Look up a medical cylinder holder online and maybe that will solve your problem. This is what we use...
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    No worries. I wish I had a better answer for how to do it in truck beds without a real fab’d rack or solid mounting location.
     
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    That's legit, I might scoop something like that for toting around propane tanks etc.
     
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    I’m not saying this is approved but, it does kinda make sense. Notice the strap height also.

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    I wonder if you don’t fall under a certain category for that. I started thinking back prior to my Cryo days and our n2 tire fill cart for aviation tires stored cylinders horizontally. So I guess in very specific instances that could be done. But the other 99.999999999% of the time it shouldn’t.

    I am not up to speed on fire extinguisher storage. But every one I have ever seen is vertical for storage or transport. We have 1 type of vehicle at work that stores them horizontally.
     
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    To me there is something very wrong with this photo. What is keeping the cylinders from falling backwards when accelerating? They're secured together at the top but only secured at the lower part to the pickup bed. They need to be secured to the truck near the top as well. Those suckers are heavy.
    ALSO there are NO valve covers either! They will be missiles!
    [​IMG]
     
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    IMO that doesn t look safe. A sharp left turn, and the bottom strap could let go. I would add, on each side, straps from the top strap to the bed.
     
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    There is nothing to stabilize the bottom or top of those tanks. The straps aren't good enough. That pic is so wrong....
     
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    So just out of curiosity, when was the last time this actually happened ? Not trying to start a fight, its a real question, I'll wait.

    I know what OSHA says and I also know what people do in real life. They are not the same.
     
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    It’s from Australia. I have never seen this done around here. I don’t have a good answer as to not tipping backwards.
     
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    Maybe they think that because they're south of the equator? :rolleyes:
     
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    What size cylinders? What's in the cylinders? Oxygen? Volatile gases?
     
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    Damn, I remember those carts. We called them "NAN" carts. I calibrated the gauges on those carts. We never used them horizontally. I was part of a 2 man team based out of MCAS Iwakuni. We traveled all over FMF Pac to various air bases to do the bore site alignment for Marine EA-6B's. The calibration required liquid Nitrogen.
     
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    Yep, not the same.....some folks can be careless. I'll wait..................
     

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