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Grille tab release clips help

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014+)' started by mahmer09, Jan 13, 2020.

  1. Jan 13, 2020 at 3:35 PM
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    I am trying to remove the TRD grille insert, the black part, from the color match surround. There are 13 tabs and I’m at a loss on how to release them without breaking them. Any tips?
     
  2. Jan 13, 2020 at 3:40 PM
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    It’s very likely you will break one at least. You will need a very small screwdriver to pop them out. Lift the surrounding tab up above the little male part. You will have to get a few started otherwise they tend to snap back into place as you’re taking it apart. I was pretty lucky, I removed my old insert as well as the new insert from the new surround. I only broke one tab. But it still functions. Breaking a few won’t even be a real issue.
     
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    You will break a few and they are a PITA, I will see if I can find a few phots when I did mine.
     
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    I think I may have used a thin plastic putty knife and maybe a Percision flat head screwdriver. You can pop one tab and leave the tool slightly inserted so it doesn’t pop back in, then start the next one with your other tool. Once you get a few Undone, slowly work your way around. I did notice the chrome surround is a little more sturdy than a painted surround. The painted one is the one I cracked a tab on. I suggest bringing it in the house and laying down on the carpet. Let it warm up a little if it was cold outside. This may help in keeping them from cracking.
     
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  5. Jan 13, 2020 at 3:45 PM
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    Thanks! I’m just not sure where to apply pressure. Behind the tab where it’s flat or in front at the bulge?
     
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    All the work on the tabs need to be done from behind the grille. The tabs themselves are circular and the part from the grille is shaped to snap into them. You’re going to want to pry up on the circular part. Very very very carefully. It will be frustrating and snap back into place on you until you get it started.Have a couple of tools ready. You can leave one inserted in the first tab and then work on the next tab over. You may need to leave the tool inserted in that one as well while you work on the third to the other side of your starter.
     
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  7. Jan 13, 2020 at 3:51 PM
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    I have a piggyback question similar to this. I'm having issues with my nose panel, or hood bulge, that attaches to the hood. That's probably not the right name. Anyway, when I'm driving the wind causes the clips to back out. Does anyone else have issues with this? How'd you fix it? My guess is aftermarket clips, does anyone have any suggestions or a link to some better clips that prevent this?

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    I think that's wear I started, and as I remember there are 2 screws on each side. I believe the yellow screwdriver is keeping force out as you move along.Screenshot_20200113-174852_Gallery.jpg
     
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  9. Jan 13, 2020 at 3:54 PM
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    Thanks. The circle part? They are flat with a bulge towards the inside of the insert. I’m just not sure what to pry.
     
  10. Jan 13, 2020 at 4:26 PM
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    @TXRailRoads73
    Dealt with this at some point. Maybe he can help you out.
     
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  11. Jan 13, 2020 at 4:38 PM
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    It’s been so long. Can you take a picture so I could maybe give you a hand? As John said above you need to remove a couple of screws as well.

    to me it was pretty obvious how it was all supposed to come apart, but I’m good at that kind of stuff. Not trying to be condescending.


    The insert is basically the male part of the clips. The surround is the female part of the clips. The part that is attached to the surround is the part you need to be lifting up on. I found that if I took a sharp razor blade, I was able to trim some of the excess plastic Schlag that is present from when the plastic pieces were molded. This helped to remove The insert. Helping the male part have less interference upon removal. It’s hard to explain without showing someone firsthand. Years ago, I swear I replied in a thread with pictures. But I’m having trouble finding it.
     
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    Probably where the pressure clips slide into place are breaking, becoming brittle with the weather, and the constant closing of the hood, mine was doing the same, but all the way across, the faster you went on highway the more it got sucked up by wind, if you can pry away on it to check where the pressure clips go the little plastic brackets might be cracked, possibly might need new hood buldge
     
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  13. Jan 13, 2020 at 6:14 PM
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    Lol I forgot I have my old grill hanging. I will take a look.20200113_201117.jpg
     
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    Start by taking out all four screws, two per side. Then starting at the top
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    start removing clips, with a little force from a large screwdriver and using a very small to pick the clips apart. You might need a helper for the first two because no place to pry with screwdriver.
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    Remember to push it together a little then pick the clip and release.

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    Good luck!

    Once I got started I believe the yellow screwdriver will trail behind by 6 to 8 inches.
     
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  15. Jan 14, 2020 at 9:12 AM
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    Thanks for all the replies. I used the double tool pry method and only broke two clips. I feel good about that. I have no feeling in the tips of two fingers on my left hand from trying to pull the plastic apart, haha. Glad this is done.
     
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    If you want to part with that grill surround, lemme know. I have been looking for a gloss black one for my '17
     
  17. Jan 14, 2020 at 9:59 AM
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    I had that too.
    I was like WTF the first couple times it happened..
    I bought these and replaced them all a few weeks ago.
    So far they have stayed in.

    Be careful tightening the bolts.
    When I took mine out one of the clip nuts had broken off the bulge.
    I glued it back on and it actually worked..

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0040CWVTW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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    I used a small flat blade jewelers screw driver.
    I only broke one tab, but it was right next to the screw.

    It really helps if you have someone else pull the parts apart while you manipulate the tabs.
    It is really hard to do by yourself...
     
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    Thanks man. Just what I'm looking for. And yes, I already had my issues with the bolts, I used some speed clips to stand in for the broken OEM ones.
     
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    There are three bolts under the hood that hold the hood bulge. Remove them then carefully remove the hood bulge. The plastic that the clips are seated in is not very strong. Check your clips to see if they are distorted and look for broken plastic where the clips go into. If you have 2 failed clips or broken plastic mounts beside each other it will tear off while driving. I just replaced the one on my wifes truck this weekend. A tractor trailer in the opposing lane cleaned it right off the hood. Unfortunately I dont know if some loctite glue or epoxy can repair broken plastic should that be the case. In her case on clip was distorted and the next clip bracket was half broken.
     
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    I didn't have anymore issues until yesterday it popped back out going 70mph into the wind.
    If it keeps up I guess I might have to cover the inside of that little grille and block the air flow going into the hood bulge..
    Not sure how to stop it..
     
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    Haha, no feeling in fingertips, I definitely remember that part. This is one of the most challenging projects I have encountered in my three years of ownership. It's definitely not something you're doing wrong. Toyota clearly didn't intend for these to get swapped by mere mortals.
     
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    It is a false scoop They are blocked from behind I will try to get some pics tonight of my broken one to show what the problem is
     
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    As you can see there isnt much holding the clips to the actual hood bulge It appears that when brackets break the hood bulge will jump up in a stiff wind. To say the least this is very disappointing to find on my truck. What happened to the legendary toyota quality. I consider this as engineered to to fail I dont know if you repair it with epoxy or something around the broken part of the clip The last pic is of the bolting points are. You can see how they thinned out the attachment points to the rest of the part and they expect this to hold? What you can see looks substantial but the reality is this is designed to FAIL.20200124_190636[1].jpg
     

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