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Exercise and working-out Newbie

Discussion in 'Sports & Hobbies' started by kenomouth64, Feb 13, 2018.

  1. Feb 13, 2018 at 10:57 AM
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    Hold the Line! If you are not holding the line, abandon your ship. Destruction is inevitable without more to hold the line!
    I know there are quite a few weight-lifters, bodybuilders, people who exercise regularly on this forum. I have a few questions which you might be able to help me with.

    I have not exercised or worked-out regularly in at least 5 years. I blame this on college and my sedentary job.

    I am currently 181 pounds and 6ft1. My goal is to be fit overall more than anything. I would like to lose 10 lbs of fat and gain 15 pounds of muscle as well as tone the muscle, I already have.

    Also, I have permanently injured knees and am somewhat limited on what I can do as far as squats and running.

    I only have 1 hour to use the gym where I work everyday. I am not sure what the balance of calisthenics, weight-lifting, and cardio should be for me to meet my goal. Does anyone have any advice in this area?

    Also what kind of diet should I be on and how much time should I expect to wait before i start getting results (remember I only have 1 hour per workday to workout)?

    I appreciate any suggestions.
     
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    Why didn't you tag me bro! :curls::benchpress::militarypress:
    Look at all this lifting I do. I post benching emojis all the time :mad:
     
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    I would consider following Mark Rippetoe's starting strength program and putting on your muscle first. Then cut down to your final desired weight.

    The program is simple and is definitely do-able in an hour. 3x week Squats/Bench/Power Clean and Squats/Overhead Press/Deadlift.

    Good question is do they have a squat rack?
     
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    Honestly, 1 hour of weights per day is all you really need. I personally do 4 days of heavy and hard weights.

    To start off, I would go easy on the weights but focus on compound movements (bench, squat, deadlift) to get the form and technique down, then progressively increase weight. I'd stick between 4-8 reps. 2 exercises per body part, 3 working sets each.

    Keep an eye on your nutrition since you're trying to cut for now. 10 lbs shouldn't take long at all.

    Include some HITT cardio (only need 15-30 mins 2 days a week, the other 4 days hit the weights.)
     
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    Hold the Line! If you are not holding the line, abandon your ship. Destruction is inevitable without more to hold the line!
    They do have a squat rack. I am not sure if I could use it though.

    Also, I forgot to mention this.

    I am unable to do squats because of permanent damage in my knees... I can run, though I prefer not to. I am currently using an elliptical in place of running.
     
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    I'd say cut first then gain muscle since body fat percentage has an inverse relationship with testosterone levels.
     
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    leg press?
     
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    there are people better qualified than me to answer this but here's what i've learned over the years....

    You can't out "workout" shitty eating. Diet comes first. No need to over complicate it in my opinion, eat less processed crap, and eat only what you need to be full. Eggs & oatmeal for breakfast will set you on the right path. Avoid chips, cookies and other shit you know is bad for you the rest of the day.

    Water, drink plenty of it and then some more.

    Workouts? To lose weight, you gotta sweat in my opinion. The thing that matters most is that you enjoy it. You need to enjoy it to keep it up... whether that be calisthenics, weights, yoga, whatever. If you don't like it, you won't do it. If it feels like a chore, you're on the road to nowhere.

    My workouts are either High Intensity Interval circuits (with or without kettlebells 'bodyweight') or rowing machine workouts. I don't really like doing heavy weights regularly, once in a while, yeah.

    You'll get a ton of answers from some smart people on here, but eat healthy, don't obsess over it. Pick something you enjoy, mix it up, drink more water.
     
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    Oh....

    personal trainer.

    Speak to some friends, get recommendations. I see mine once a month, she helps with diet and will even create a day by day meal plan if i want to and she gives me a set of workouts to use for the month. It costs me $80 a pop but def worth it. I don't need mine to watch over me every time i work out, i just want the tailored workouts to push me in the direction i want to go in. Generally in winter, i put on muscle and then summer, i lean out as i prefer to weigh 15 or 20lbs less when i'm on the water.


    Also, get that shit under control now and stay at it. The older i get, the harder it is to get back after a break. I just took a couple of months off as wife had a kid and i wanted to be around for support all the time. workouts are kicking my ass right now and my recovery time is not where it was when i was in my 20s or early 30s.
     
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    Hold the Line! If you are not holding the line, abandon your ship. Destruction is inevitable without more to hold the line!
    I can do the leg press. I might even be able to do a few squats with no weight, lol (I had my knees give out on me from just squatting without weights...).
     
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    I ditched weights due to injuries over time. Once someone kicks your ass with a bodyweight only workout, your life is very different and awesome. I still like to lift every now and then but i never lift heavy any more - i just do weird shit like squats on an unstable base for core strength.
     
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    Damn! definitely work on your stabilization muscles!
    I'd do uni leg press (one leg at a time) and increase weight. Also, try some lunges and step ups.

    A favorite activation exercise of mine is KB swings and Barbell loaded hip thrusts before any compound exercise involving knees and hips (squats, deadlifts, etc)

    This activates and facilitates more neuromuscular firing in hips, hamstrings and glutes rather than dominant quads/knees.

    also, focus on the eccentric portion of the lift (lowering the weight)
     
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    You’re 6’1” at 180 and want to lose 10lbs? I’m 5’7” and am 180 trying to gain another 20 again lol.

    Contrary to what bros say, you’ll need to pick one goal and go from there. You need muscle to burn more efficiently which will result in prob a waist trimming as ur Bf% goes down and LBM increases.

    “Toning” is mainly diet. If it were me, I would focus on gaining first. What is ur current diet? Many will tell me they can’t gain weight. When I ask for a diet, I find incosistency and not enough food.

    You’re just getting back to it so keep it basic. Try some full body workouts for 3x a week. 2 excerises for larger muscle groups and 1 for smaller. I’ve had both knees operated on and picked it up after 12 weeks or so. Try high rep, light leg presses. Do a slow count going down, and up. Consider supersetting with lying leg curls
     
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    Question for you. I am a chronic start/stop lifter and I shred my quads every first squat session and it usually makes me have to extra rest days. I never start heavy either (usually 135 - which is super easy to lift) Any advice on warmup leading to a start?
     
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    This. If everything around is strong and you have good form squats should not affect knees.
     
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    hit the leg curl before and if that's not enough, I would do loaded barbell thrusts.

    Think about investing in some exercise bands to put around the knees/lower quads. These will increase glute and hip involvement with the added resistance when "spreading the floor" on squats. My knee would give me problems as well as my hip flexor when squatting. AFter doing these and in between set foam rolling on hips, it's all but gone.

    sounds like you might not have your technique down pat and leaning forward and/or not activating your glute/hams when squatting.

    I also squat for 15 reps with no weight on the bar and incorporate 3-4 sets to lead up to my working sets. Increasing the weights to working weight while decreasing the reps. Last set will be about 10- 20 lbs below my working weight with 1 rep.
     
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    This for sure. Leaning forward is always an issue. Have fought over the idea of Olympic shoes for awhile.
     
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    Hold the Line! If you are not holding the line, abandon your ship. Destruction is inevitable without more to hold the line!
    That is good to know, perhaps I need to work on my form then.
     
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    Hold the Line! If you are not holding the line, abandon your ship. Destruction is inevitable without more to hold the line!
    So should I avoid losing weight and just try to gain for now? My current diet is around 2k-2.5k calories daily. I eat dried fruit for breakfast, workout during lunch, then eat a low calorie (300-400) steamed vegetable and chicken/pork meal, then for dinner, I usually eat something along the lines of, " Protein (8-14 oz of some kind of meat), Potato, steamed veggies, Canned beans followed by a desert of a bowl of Ice cream". Then throughout the day I might snack on a few snack size peanut M&Ms. I only drink water, just water.

    I am concerned that too much cardio will strip me of any LBM gains or prevent them rather. I am also not sure if I am eating enough or dieting correctly for muscle gain.
     
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    Definitely fix that. That will cause some knee problems when the weight starts getting heavy. Low bar squat, knees just above toes the whole way down, chest up, hips move back first before bending at the knee, point your toes up, hips parallel or just below knees at the bottom, and then push through your heels/center of your foot on the way back up while pushing your hips forward. Lower the weight until you get that form down.
     
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    Damn, I don't even have kids lol :anonymous:
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    dont forget spreading the floor
     
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    I have some adidas powerlift (i forget the actual name)

    They've served me well, but I do prefer flat soled shoes. Been thinking of getting back on the Oly shoes in light of my knee and hip issue.
     
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