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Do you tow with P rated tires?

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by Pariverpirate, Oct 3, 2019.

  1. Oct 3, 2019 at 4:47 PM
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    Pariverpirate

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    We just bought a new camper. It will be delivered in a couple of weeks. Currently our camper only weighs 4000lbs and Ive been towing it with Michelin LTX AT2 tires. They are P rated. Nice tire but I need to replace two of them soon, so why not all of them. We are moving up to a larger camper ( 5500lbs dry weight ). Thinking of going to LT tires but when I did that on my Tacoma the ride sucked. Anyone have any suggestions????
     
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    Upgrade your suspension and tires at the same time. I put LT tires on and the ride was noticeably stiffer until I got my 6112s installed. Now the ride is better than stock.
     
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    Thats what I had on my Tacoma. I thought they road horrible. They were great off road , but horrible on the highway.
     
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  5. Oct 3, 2019 at 5:00 PM
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    The P Metric Captastic tires are rated over what the Tundra can legally tow.

    That being said, you can get a LT Load Range C tire. Cooper Tires offers some in your tire size.

    Upgrading suspension like shocks isn’t a bad idea either.
     
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    I have Sumosprings on for my camper now. They level the truck out perfect. Might upgrade to the higher ones with the new camper as im going up about 2500lbs total. As far as tires I want something a little aggressive but something that rides nice. Figure Ill probably stay with P rated as Im not going super heavy with the new camper. I just dont know what I would like.
     
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    BFG KO2s or Coopers. My BFGs are E rated and they ride really well. I dont know how they would be for towing.

    When it's time to replace my current tires it will be one of those two brands.
     
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    P Rating doesn't matter as far as weight is concerned. The weight is in the trailer. Where the tires come into play is trailer sway. LTs will help with the sidewalls not giving as much.

    Most people run rims that don't even come close to what a P rated tire will handle "weight wise".

    If you decide the run Es, change the shocks. I like the Monomax.
     
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  9. Oct 6, 2019 at 4:57 PM
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    As stated above Trailer weight is mainly carried by the trailer axle. (Tongue weight + Weight in bed + Dry rear axle weight< Sum of max load of both rear tires)
    just to give you some ballpark numbers.
    Max load of a Michelin LTX AT2 -P275/65R18 114T = 2365lbs @51 psi (on michelin website)
    So 2 rear tires = 4730lbs = max load capacity of P rated tires
    Dry rear axle weight is in the ball park of 2900lbs ( weight the rear end of the truck supports AKA Front/ Rear weight bias)
    4730-2900=1830lbs remaining Theoretical capacity.
    Toyota rates the payload capacity of the tundra under this value.
    There is a sticker on the driver door jamb that provides payload specifics for your exact truck trim level.
    If you have 10% tongue weight on a 5500lb trailer, there should be 550lbs on the hitch.
    Technically you can't overload the OEM tires without exceeding the jamb stickers stated capacities.
    Yes LT/E-load will give you more sway resistance in the sidewall, but they will also decrease your mpg from the weight. LT's do offer more tread depth.
     
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    Agreed, I like mine. They do ride stiffer, but most LTs do. They are wearing nicely, do good in the rain and snow, have had no issues.
     
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    E rated BFGoodrich KO2 Tire’s work great. I replaced my Michelin’s with these and I wouldn’t ride with anything else.
     
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    In my experience, BFG's are severely over-rated tires. No warranty. Wear excessively in heavy applications. Do not excel in any specific category especially snow/ice.
    Hard to compare a P-rated to a E rated. apples to oranges comparison. Most of my Duramax friends changed to Coopers.
     
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    Sooooo true
    There are so many tires today much better than these tires. They wear very badly no matter how much you rotate them very over rated tire......
    OP I tow 5500 dry camper with E rated tires. The p metrics had a lot of flex in them. Good luck
     
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  14. Jan 5, 2020 at 6:03 PM
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    I don't run passenger car tires on my trucks for any reason. E rated BFGoodrich KO2's since it was new.
     
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    Do yourself a favor and research on Tirerack.com. You'll find the BFG KO2s rank high in many categories and overall performance. Mine are wearing very well and I've towed a 5th wheel 12,000 of my 25,000 total miles. I'll replace them at 50,000 with plenty of tread left with another set of KO2s Great tire!
     
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