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Current brake situation/drilled and slotted upgrade

Discussion in '2nd Gen Tundras (2007-2013)' started by Bgsxrunner, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. Jun 18, 2019 at 12:33 PM
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    When I bought the truck I was told it needed new pads and given a set of Napa pads. I had looked at the pads and there was still about a quarter left and I ran it down to bare minimum then swapped to the Napa pads. I’ve put 60k on the truck and the Napa pads only lasted about half that. Has anyone else had this experience with Napa pads? I’m guessing I got roughly 25-30k out of them so my current situation is as followed
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    And I know I’m pretty hard on the brakes but the front were brand new when I bought it and they still have more than a quarter left and I’ve been through a whole set of Napa pads and a quarter of original. Unfortunately I don’t know who the original pads were from. For probably about the next two weeks I’m just gonna slap a cheap pair of advanced wearever silvers in there and I can already say the advanced pads have significantly less play than then Napa pads.

    Anyways with the front getting slim I’m looking to upgrade to drilled and slotted because I am tougher on them than the average person. This is the kit I’m looking at. Does this look about right for an everyday drilled and slotted kit? Is Hart a good brand? I don’t do much towing so I don’t need the best of the best. Last time I had her weighted it was just shy of 7k.8032719D-5B03-477F-8DA0-AC0D75C859A0.jpg
     
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    https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/131772059576

    There is the link readings the descriptions I don’t really see much difference. Both are zinc. Both are drilled and slotted. Both are anti corrosion. The Hart are ceramic pads but I didn’t see where powerstop listed that they just claim 20% more braking power than competitors.
     
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    Haven't heard of that brand. Power Stop user here.
     
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    If the specs match up then maybe it's worth a try on the Harts. I'm sure some of the difference in cost is attributed to the "PowerStop" name.
     
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    Have you noticed any increase or decrease in stopping power?
     
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    That’s kinda what I’m thinking and being made of the same material I don’t see how your gonna get more stopping power. If the powerstop came with better calipers then I could see the price difference but for rotors and pads I don’t care what the name brand is.
     
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    image.jpg New pads vs old this always cracks me up for some reason
     
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    yeah, forgive me but scoring brakes from an unknown brand off ebay doesn't scream "great decision" at me?

    Arguably, drilled & slotted rotors will wear pads even faster and only really helps in the wet & also repetitive braking to help dissipate heat. For road driving, aggressive or not, I'd want non-drilled, non-slotted rotors to get as much pad contact as possible to help me stop.

    But sure, drilled & slotted look cool.
     
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    Yes. Much better than OEM and no more rotor warping. I went with Power Stop since so many have them here and gave good reviews. EBC 's are very good too. Both proven brands over time.
     
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    I'm still on the stock pads/rotors at 44K miles, but will be going with Powerstop when the time comes just based off everyone's experience and feedback.
     
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    Drilled bad, especially if the manufacturer is suspect (Unknown) Slots good, Dimple good. Drill bad unless you go with EBC's or somebody with an established reputation.
     
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    What are drilled rotors known to do that is bad?
     
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    crack between the holes. one crack leads to two, to three etc etc. Cracks in rotors are no good.
     
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    Well obviously not but I didn’t know if it was lack of heat distribution so it caused them to warp sooner or what.
     
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    lack of good materials, quality control etc. They can work, when you have a good manufacturer with good QA, EBC, Brembo etc.

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    Yeah I can see how that would definitely be a problem. Is this person experience or google?
     
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    I've had it happen on a car. I've had friends that it's happened as well.

    I would add. For a truck that gets used, and if you're hard on brakes, you probably want to spend your money on Cryo treated rotors. They'll last WAY longer than anything else and resist warping.
     
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    Since your friends have experience, do you feel it in the petal or anything like that or do you just have to watch the rotors?
     
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    you can't feel it. On my car, it started as small spider webs on the inner holes. I ditched them as soon as I saw mine. Race applications, I'd run them since heat is your enemy and wheels get pulled almost every time it's out so you check often. Just not something I'd personally play with on the street. Others can, and you may as well. Just not worth it to me. You're a grown up, take the info as it is and for what you paid for it.
     
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    I have a lot of trouble with warped rotor that’s why I’m looking to get the drilled and slotted. Is there an increase or decrease in stopping power when swapping?
     
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    Carbibles.com left Hart a pretty decent review
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    if you want to cure warping. Cryo rotors.

    If you want stopping power, go for EBC large rotors, and Blue Stuff pads. Be prepared to replace the pads every couple of months though. it'll stop on a dime. Your ask is Performance, Longevity and Durability. That combo doesn't exist.
     
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    Get them, you have your mind made up.
     
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    Longevity doesn’t matter near as much as performance. I’d rather have to change them every couple of month rather than kill someone. And based on provided spec I think I am gonna go with Hart. With the same specs I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the same thing in a different box or different logo
     
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    Let us know what you think after you get them put on. I'd be curious to hear the feedback. :thumbsup:
     
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    I would not do drilled.

    I have Stoptech slotted rotors and EBC pads that have been in my garage for almost a year. I was told by Firestone I needed brake pads when I got tires. As I do my work myself I said no thanks and ordered the rotors/pads. When I went to install them I found I had a ton of pad left (they also wanted to do my lower ball joints, also ordered, also fine)

    I would not trust my truck & my family to no name brake parts.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
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    Only running drilled/slotted on the rear. Zero issues after 2 years. I prefer plain Jane rotors up front. Only a preference. If you get the Hart's then do a follow up as already mentioned. Looks like they have a decent warranty.
     
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    Powerstop gets great reviews and Hart is made of the same materials so let’s see if they can make it the same. I’m thinking powerstop your paying for the name but we’ll find out
     

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