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Brake Controller Error - locked the shifter.

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014+)' started by MWD, Aug 11, 2019.

  1. Aug 11, 2019 at 9:20 PM
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    MWD

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    2017 TRD with integrated Brake Controller. Installed a Curt 56070 wiring harness to put another 7-way trailer connector in the front of the bed for a slide-in camper to plug into. After loading camper for the first time, I drove about 30 feet and shut off the truck to finish tightening the tie-down turnbuckles. When I started up the truck again the Brake Controller Error message took over the dash and all the other lights lit up, 4HI 4LO, check engine etc. It also locked the shifter and I had to do the emergency procedure to shift into DRIVE so I could drive home from Telluride, CO - no Toyota dealers anywhere close. Lifted the camper and unplugged the camper from the 7-pin connector. The speedometer and odometer did not work. Made the 180 mile drive home OK. Hooked up to OBD port and got a P0500 code.

    Does the brake controller not like having a pickup camper with no brakes or stop/turn signal bulbs connected to the 7-pin harness? I cleared the CEL code but I could not clear a "Permanent" 0500 code. Still have the Brake Controller Error message and all the dash lights and locked shifter.

    How best to proceed?
     
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  2. Aug 11, 2019 at 10:49 PM
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    landphil

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    I’m betting that your “Stop” fuse for the brake lights is blown.
     
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  3. Aug 11, 2019 at 11:52 PM
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    Dang those pesky fuses :boom:
     
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  4. Aug 12, 2019 at 6:04 AM
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    P0500 code and possible causes...

    P0500 Vehicle Speed
    Sensor "A"
    - Open or short in
    speed signal circuit
    - Wheel speed sensor
    - Combination meter
    - ECM
    - Skid control ECU
     
  5. Aug 12, 2019 at 8:32 AM
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    Not the STOP fuse. Checked all other fuses that might be associated with braking, towing etc. All were good.

    Permanent P0500 code is for "Speed Sensor A".
     
  6. Aug 12, 2019 at 10:14 AM
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    I must have been tired when I posted that last night, totally missed the speedo / tach not working and the fault code, all of which won’t be a Stop fuse.

    I’m not familiar with this exact issue on a Tundra, but the IG1 or IG1 no.2 fuses are the ticket for this on Tacomas, one of which supplies the trailer charge power on the black wire of the 7 pin socket. Worth at least a quick look.
     
  7. Aug 12, 2019 at 8:00 PM
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    Took it to a local shop who scanned it and found a U0122 and a U0129 code. Something about communication between ECU and 4WD ECU. Brake controller error message went away after visiting the shop. He just scanned it and said it was best to take it to a dealer and didn't charge me anything!

    The dealer said it might be the "Main" fuse. Checked every fuse that might be a "Main" fuse but I didn't find one labeled "Main".

    So I guess it is off to the dealer next Monday unless I can come up with something else to check get lucky.
     
  8. Aug 13, 2019 at 4:41 AM
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    May be a long shot but did you try disconnecting the negative battery cable and letting it sit for 10 minutes or so? May just need to reboot the ECM....
     
  9. Aug 13, 2019 at 9:14 PM
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    Disconnected the negative cable. No joy. I wonder if there is a small battery in the system to keep the computer(s) powered up - the radio does not lose station presets. NewImprovedRon, thanks for the tip....we are now in SW Colorado, previously lived in Batesville, AR.
     
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  10. Aug 14, 2019 at 4:34 AM
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    Sorry that didn't help with your situation, Mike. Hopefully someone will be along soon to help you out. So, are you from Arkansas originally?
     
  11. Aug 14, 2019 at 6:59 AM
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    Yes, I grew up in Tuckerman - near Newport - delta, row crop country. Always loved to watch skiing on ABC Wide World of Sports. Really enjoy it here, lots to do outside - year round. And you, native Arkansan?
     
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  12. Aug 14, 2019 at 8:56 AM
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    Yep, born in Malvern and grew up in Hot Springs. The Army and post-Army employers took me away from the state until 1991 when we moved to Bentonville.
     

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