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Blue smoke blues??? UPDATE: Dealer states failed PCV

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  1. May 1, 2018 at 2:08 PM
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    So the past couple of mornings when i start the darkknight up a small cloud of blueish smoke comes out both exhaust tips. Dealer believes it to be the seals. What do you guys/gals think? Going in thursday night so they can do a cold start on friday morning. This happens for about 15 to 30 seconds then the normal condensation smoke follows. Any help would be great.
     
  2. May 1, 2018 at 2:16 PM
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    Truck seems fine no rough idle.
     
  3. May 1, 2018 at 2:18 PM
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    Yep everything removed correctly, oem trd cold air intake use 93 octane every other fill up.
     
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  4. May 1, 2018 at 2:23 PM
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    Ill check again but did the other day as a normal check. Dealer does the oil changes for me.
     
  5. May 1, 2018 at 2:23 PM
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    Hold the Line! If you are not holding the line, abandon your ship. Destruction is inevitable without more to hold the line!
    Hmm, that does not sound good. Hopefully oil is not making its way down into the the cylinders and it is something else. I doubt it is worn out rings, it could be though if it was ran really hard all the time or with very little oil.
     
  6. May 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM
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    To be honest i dont beat on her just the normal highway speeds. No heavy towing or pulling. Had the bd more for the other features. 64,000 it better not be seals.
     
  7. May 1, 2018 at 2:28 PM
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    Some people on internet used catch cans chevy dodge etc. But id like the problem rectified instead of adding a $400 can lol
     
  8. May 1, 2018 at 2:28 PM
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    Hold the Line! If you are not holding the line, abandon your ship. Destruction is inevitable without more to hold the line!
    It might be the seals.
    Funny story is my truck has been slowly leaking oil out of the spark plug areas due to bad seals, not inside of the motor though, at the top of the spark plugs.

    No issues yet, so I havent messed with it. 157k miles and counting.
     
  9. May 1, 2018 at 2:30 PM
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    Hopefully warranty covers it if there is an issue.
     
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  10. May 2, 2018 at 3:16 PM
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    Just an update. Thanks too @GNTundra i checked the oil this am it was short a quart and a half. So def signs of internal oil burning. Drop off tomorrow at the dealership.
     
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  11. May 3, 2018 at 11:34 AM
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    Man i miss the tundy already lol20180503_142437.jpg
     
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    Camry is a nice ride though :)
     
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  13. May 3, 2018 at 12:40 PM
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    Family cam is alright i guess lol 391 miles till empty!! She is a lil 4 banger.
     
  14. May 3, 2018 at 12:52 PM
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    Does this happen every cold start?

    It's been reported as normal. Mine does it on occasion. Been doing it for years.

    I never have any oil level loss, so you may have a true issue.
     
  16. May 3, 2018 at 1:20 PM
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    I just started noticing it when i did the trd exhaust. At first i figured it was because it buring stuff off the internal of muffler. But after a month it still did it. As per @GNTundra i checked the oil and it was low a quart and some. No leakes, nothing on the ground so its burning it somewhere. And toyota better not come at me with its normal. My ss camaro didnt burn an ounce and i always tromped on her.
     
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  17. May 4, 2018 at 7:07 PM
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    Here is the update, dealer called me today to tell me that they located oil in the intake which was caused by a failed pcv. They are telling me that it is not covered by warranty. So if you happen to see the blue smoke on start up check ur pcv.
     
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  18. May 4, 2018 at 7:13 PM
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    Eh... I'm not convinced how a failed pcv could cause you to lose a quart of oil.... Yes... Oil in intake could be pcv related but the fact you've burned a quart says that there's a different problem.
     
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    I hear you but they supposedly had a master tech come and look at it and thats what they determined.
     
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    Just curious,how much did they charge you for the repair?
     
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    Still at toyota they had to order the part. Looks like ghe final price will be $350 for parts and labor.
     
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    Damn I remember when PCV valve cost a couple dollars and took you two minutes to install. I know these are just under the front of the intake manifold. I wonder how hard it is to do?
     
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    I guess thats including cleaning the oil out of the intake aswell
     
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    Hoooollllllll up

    The pvc is in the front driver side close to the front of engine

    Remove top of engine cover, move the sponge and BINGO!!!!! Smack there.

    Unscrew, and done......3 minutes topsssssss?????
     
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    Toyota engineering comes through again. I was hoping it wouldn’t be some ridiculous task. At least it’s not a starter in the middle of an engine LOL.
     
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    Got the truck today. Had to fight with warranty but won the battle because the oil seperator which sits under the manifold is what caused the failed pcv valve.
     
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    Glad you got it worked out man. Thanks for the play by play and what to look out for.
     
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    Glad your baby's out of "surgery"and it was "covered by health insurance"! Whew!

    (It must have been stressful, you and your wife getting your head around an unplanned repair expense. How much nicer it is, to now have an unanticipated SAVINGS of $350 to spend on mods!:bananadance:)
     
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