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Advice on Suspension Selection

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by cain0725, Mar 27, 2021.

  1. Mar 27, 2021 at 8:30 PM
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    cain0725

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    bought new 21 limited cremax 4x4 today. 1st tundra ever, Will be used for hunting and daily travel around town. What lift and shocks are best while improving ride quality. Had fox 2.0 on my F250, didnt tow much anymore.
     
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  2. Mar 28, 2021 at 6:14 AM
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    So much depends on lift amount, budget etc. however, bilstein 6112/5160 or eibach pro would give you an improved ride and handling while not breaking the bank.
     
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  3. Mar 28, 2021 at 6:36 AM
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    Toytec has several options to chose from depending on use and budget. Eibach, OME, Aluma, Icon, Fox, King, etc. Toytec specializes in Yota rides.
    @Toytec Lifts
     
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    I’ll share.

    I am raising the front a little with 6112s at the #2 circlip setting (raises about 1.3)...and adding the spacer on the drivers side to address the Tundra lean. Rear will stay stock height with 5100s. I’m at 80K miles so its time to refresh the shocks.

    Many guys run the 6112s up front on #3 or #so 4 but to me, at #3 that is where the truck starts to look nose high...cant stand the front being higher than the rear. Although it should come in level at #3, I think the wheel arches create an optical illusion that the front is starting to peak up. No matter the measurement, if it looks high in the front, it is.

    The TRD Pros are borderline and when I see them going down the highway they look just a smidge nose-high to me.

    Another point, as you drive your Tundra, you will realize these truck love gas. There are new gas mileage threads on this forum about twice a week. Personally, I dont care about that, I mean I made a commitment to premium fuel when I added the supercharger, but if you do decide to lift and add larger than stock wheels and AT tread pattern tires, be ready for the increase in thirst. Hopefully you have the larger gas tank so you aren’t stopping every 220 miles.

    While as compared to the domestic manufactures, the Tundra is a dinosaur in almost every way except 2: Resale and Reliability. I bought for reliability...for example: when a Toyota breaks the mindset is that the part is either wore slap out or if it was a premature failure, it is considered an anomaly. When any of the domestic trucks break it is usually well before anything is wore out and the mindset is, “Why did I go for the bells and whistles and buy this piece of shit?!” The difference isn’t subtitle but it is real.

    Welcome and congrats on your new Tundra!
     
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  5. Mar 28, 2021 at 10:50 AM
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    I agree with the above tips^^^^^^
    6112 really is good and you have options for how much front lift if you want to lift the rear as well or keep it stock. I also had a .75” drivers side lean and I went 1.9” setting 6112 with one .5” shim passenger and (2).5” shims driver for about 2.5” total lift side to side. I have full OME leaf packs in the back so still have 2” rake. You could easily do a small shackle lift with poly bushings to bring the rear of the truck up and gain some ride comfort by reducing bed hop.
     
  6. Mar 28, 2021 at 11:54 AM
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    Go coilovers for just a little more $. Fully adjustable, so you're not stuck with the preset heights, and they can be adjusted on the truck instead of having to remove them, and no need for shims. Eibach Coilover 2.0 Stage 2 is $1k, great quality, great ride and plenty of performance for most uses.
     
  7. Mar 28, 2021 at 12:01 PM
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    You won’t need anything for driving around town and going hunting.
     
  8. Mar 28, 2021 at 12:02 PM
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    True, but thats no fun!
     
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    It’s like any hobby really. How much money do you want to throw out it.

    off road capable suspension while improving on road ride quality? Not with any budget friendly set up unless your budget is 5k
     
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    Eibach is a great options along with many others just don’t go Super cheap and wouldn’t recommend 5100’s or spacer lifts. Other than that you should be pretty happy
     
  11. Mar 28, 2021 at 12:09 PM
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    Depends were town is and where you go hunting.
     
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  12. Mar 28, 2021 at 12:10 PM
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    Not necessarily true. You can replace the stock TRD suspension for around $1k and have the same or better off road performance while vastly improving the on road ride and looks. The stock suspension is way too soft and wallowy to be comfortable or stable. Stiffening it up a little while increasing travel and getting rid of the rake makes for a much more comfortable truck, in my opinion.
    Sure, it won't be a trophy truck, but it will meet all the OPs wants and needs without breaking the bank.
     
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    This^ No need to spend $5K and up unless you desert run a lot like a few of our members do.
     
  14. Mar 28, 2021 at 12:21 PM
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    This is the ones I'm leaning towards. They're pretty new only real negative I've seen was on the Tacoma board. People were having issues with the adjustment wrenches breaking.
     
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    what he has will pretty much already fit his needs so why even spend 1000 dollars.

    If the bar or standard is ‘meet our needs’ then there’s very few of us that need to do any mods at all
     
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    Yeah, the wrenches were not good. I didn't install them so didn't have to mess with it, but apparently any suspension spanner wrench will work.
    I've been running my setup for about 3000k miles with no issues. Daily driving has been great. Other than that, nothing major, just some snowy, slushy, unkept forest service roads, but so far so good.
     
  17. Mar 28, 2021 at 12:27 PM
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    OK, we'll just strip everything off and drive a stock truck then. Thanks for the input.
     
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    Ha not what I meant to imply at all.

    But if no lift is needed and it’s gonna see off-road only to go hunting it’s pretty well equipped as it is.

    It’s not like you’re gonna drive the truck through the mountains looking for elk
     
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    Agreed, but @cain0725 didn't ask if he NEEDS to swap suspension or not.
    He was looking for suggestions and info on WHAT suspension to get. So he's probably already decided that's what he wants to do.
    He mentioned running Fox on his F-250, so he's not a newb, just new to the Tundra platform and looking for info on what folks are using.
    99% of us do stuff to our trucks that we don't NEED, that's a given.
     
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    I agree. The only time my skid plate actually got bashed up was when I was on stock shocks. You'll bottom out driving over a quarter. This was just getting out to shooting spots, not trying to tackle trails.
     
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    He had fox 2.0 on a 250 so he’d probably like them again on a tundra and he won’t need the 2.5s like most of us recommend for heavier off road use
     
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    I don't think you'll have the luxury of being picky, everything is sold out across the country. I think most would agree on the 6112/5100 combo when talking price to performance.
     
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    LOL. Once again it depends on where you hunt. Out here in Colorado you sometimes drive to and through the mountains on primitive 130 year old mining roads to get up to where an elk herd has been spotted. A stock tunny is not going to cut it at all. Most folks don't want to hump elk quarters 12 miles to their truck because not properly equipped. Depending where you hunt the stock Tundra can be woefully inadequate. smh
     
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    Totally agree with the above statements about Colorado hunting and some of the forest and county roads. To make a full size truck work you really need better ground clearance and more durable tires than come from the factory. Especially when you load the truck up with gear and guys it’s easy to fully bottom the truck out on ruts and rocks. I much prefer a good suspension setup and knowing I can make it where I want to without worry
     
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    I wonder how people hunted those elk before Kings and Icons were available
     
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    Over reaching here. Talking about having enough clearance doesn't call out for a $5K setup. Back in the day even 1/2 ton trucks had live front and rear axles and came with tall decent pizza cutter tires that could get you to a lot of places. Plenty of clearance. Our stock Tundra front ends are pretty low and the rear isn't nothing to write home about. Some folks will take their properly setup truck clearance wise and haul a horse trailer up to a drop off spot and use horses from there on out. Jeeps have been around for a bit.
     
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    I think he's just committed to being contrary today.
     
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    I just park mine somewhere that looks rugged and take pictures

    The fox 2.0 would be more than adequate for this. Get a 2 inch lift and fit bigger tires. Don’t even need a new uca
     
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    Yea I don’t know why but for some reason I chose today to get a big up my ass to point out that most of us spend an inordinate amount of money on suspensions when we don’t really need it

    Ignore me and the cat that pissed in my Cheerios today
     
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    thanks for the advice, is the 6100 a shock or coil over? Do not want a spacer lift or axels out of alignment and cause pre mature failure. The truck needs to sit level or raised all the way around. But not much. 6 inch would be silly for my needs. Need wheels, i figure 17-18 inch with tires. No ground clearance up front, and live on a farm. But will not be desert running and stuff. Just hunt in Arkansas and the mud is real!
     

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