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Add a Leaf Options and Advice (Gen 1)

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Mctodd, Sep 3, 2018.

  1. Sep 3, 2018 at 10:04 AM
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    Mctodd

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    I'm looking into add a leaf options for my 2003 Tundra to beef up the rear suspensions and prevent sag. I'm thinking i'll throw on some 5100s and then Add a leaf to the stock Leaf Springs. Is much difference in the quality of the options out there or is everything pretty comparable?
    I'm do some off roading/camping but am mostly on the road and don't want to give up towing ability.
    Looking for any advice or recommendations.

    right now it has older Fabtech Dirt Logic 2.5s (Blue) on the front from previous owner and the cheap white Fabtechs on the rear.
     
  2. Sep 3, 2018 at 10:36 AM
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    Casper421

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    There are a few options out there for an aal. Toytec, wheelers and Icon make a progressive 3 pack that provide 2-2.5” while reusing your overload spring. Toytec and wheelers also have a single leaf aal with minimal benefits. I would go with a 3 pack aal or get a custom set of springs made for your lift and weight handling requirements.
     
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  3. Sep 3, 2018 at 2:45 PM
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    because_v8

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    Go to www.wheelersoffroad.com and get their progressive aal. I had it on both my Tacomas and plan to have it on my Tundra. It's cheaper than the icon brand progressive aal and they seen seem to be the exact same thing.
     
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    I priced out some complete springs a while back for the 02’ just for grins from Old Man Emu. $1500 just for the springs! Not worth it for me as my springs are still good even though I tow fairly regularly. I have the forward rake in normal drive. During tow load it sits level.

    Aal will change your smooth rider. Lots of talk on here about airbags (instead of aal) but no need for my rig. Shes smoove ridin’!
     
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  5. Sep 3, 2018 at 4:59 PM
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    I noticed you are in nor cal. If you are near sacramento I would call Sacramento spring 916-371-5124. They can make you anything you want. Any hight lift and set for what ever wight you plan on hauling. I got a custom leaf pack with a 4 inch lift maid by them and I love the set up. I can haul a lot more wight and I have 11.5 inches of travel in full flix.
    http://sacspring.com
    2018-09-03 16.50.46.jpg
     
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  6. Sep 4, 2018 at 9:51 PM
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    Awesome thanks guys. So it sounds just adding a leaf is the cheapest but is also minimally helpful so i'll take a look at the 3 packs. I'm guessing the custom leaf packs are pretty spendy and probably more than i'm gonna need 99% of the time. How much did your custom pack run @Brown Bear ? I'm actually in Sac so i may call those guys just to check it out so thanks for the heads up. Also do you have any more pics of your rig up, it looks badass and i'd love to see a few more shots of it..
     
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  7. Sep 4, 2018 at 10:15 PM
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    Casper421

    Casper421 Adventure in a 1st gen

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    He has a bad ass truck, here’s his build:
    https://www.tundras.com/threads/my-03-build.16259/
     
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  8. Sep 4, 2018 at 11:20 PM
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    Thank you. Like Casper421 said check out my build page. My leaf pack was 700$ installed. Sac spring does make add a leafs, witch wold be a lot cheeper. The cool thing is every thing they make is hand forged with hammer and anvil. I would definitely check them out if you are in the sac area.
     
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  9. Sep 5, 2018 at 2:20 AM
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    Sunnier

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    If I get a winch on my 2WD, can I overland with the BASTRDs and SGU?!
    @01erionracing has done a lot to his 1st gen, I think recently added custom leafs....
     
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  10. Sep 5, 2018 at 7:19 AM
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    My current leafs pack on the gen 1 made by Deaver (light medium 200/300 lbs load) and my previous Jeep leafs pack made by Alcan (800 lbs load) been use for many years without sagging. They are high quality custom build per your spec and made in USA.
     
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    Are these stock replacement or did they give you a little lift?

    This is a great resource for those who want to replace their old saggy springs. Thank you for sharing!
     
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  13. Sep 5, 2018 at 5:26 PM
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    Anybody ever put Chevy 63 springs on their Tundra? That's a popular spring swap on Tacomas on TW. But it requires you to cut you front mounts and move em foreward
     
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    No but it's something I was looking at doing. But that probably won't happen for a long time. This is one of the conversion kits I was looking at. The kit doesn't come with Springs. It's just all the hardware to convert to a 63 spring.
    https://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/R1799.html
     
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    It does. 2...2 and a half plus I went with a heavy duty upgraded spring along with the hellwigs. Heavier capacity but didnt sacrifice for a harder ride.

    The quick struts up front were from advanced auto where momma gets the discount. The truck sits up slightly higher so newer bigger shoes can be fitted.

    ....and maybe a locker
     
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    I have been running the ICON aal for the past year and 3 months. Been great. Gave me about 1.5”-2” of height increase and helped a lot with extra weight.

    Now that I run harder and heavier I just ordered a custom Deaver Pack from Archive Garage with their u-bolt flip. Can’t wait to get these puppies on and tested out
     
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    Did you end up installing the Deaver pack? How did you like the shackle
    Flip bracket? I’m looking at the same
    Kit myself. I’m after a softer ride that has the same Carrying capacity. How much lift and what Deaver pack did you go with?

    Thanks.
     
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  18. Nov 18, 2018 at 6:07 AM
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    Have you looked at an Air-Lift system yet?
     
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    Deaver Pack by Archive Garage is flawless. Gained an extra 2-2.5” or so. Holds weight great. Set up to hold an extra 500lbs in the bed.

    I did the u bolt flip and not the shackle flip.

    It’s awssome. Went on smooth. No problems!
     
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    2-2.5” over your aal?!
     
  21. Nov 18, 2018 at 9:20 AM
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    Atlas springs vs deaver? Any opinions
     
  22. Nov 18, 2018 at 9:26 AM
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    Yep!

    To be fair the AAL took a beating over 1.5yrs. It was sagging already...

    Now that I’ve put about a 1000 miles on them, Some with full weight, they’ve settled maybe a quarter to half inch...



    Before and After Photo

    D3209246-3F04-4B09-A792-282961600386.jpg
    FD786179-13AF-4D13-9800-F06046BF87CD.jpg
     
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