2022 interior......horrible!

I mean, to a point, I have no issue discussing other trucks; I've no issue pointing out the advantages of other trucks.

Where it becomes bothersome is when someone attempts to tell me just how trash our trucks are because

- others are kinda reliable too
- look at all these features/payload/mileage/etc.!
- Toyota features/payload/mileage/etc. sucks/is lacking/isn't as good!

I personally just tune out. I know and knew exactly what the hell I was buying when I bought it...I don't need others to confirm it, though it's nice when they do. I researched the living bejeezus out of it prior to buying. (Which is a huge part of why I find it hilarious when people post reviews on all the negative stuff they 'found out' once they bought the truck. ) It's not that I can't handle criticism...I took the same amount of criticism when I owned an F150. It's the fact that not every little thing has to be debated ad infinitum, and not everyone has to be shamed or belittled. Yes, I realize we Tundra owners do it too....that's the nature of fanboys. But two wrongs don't make a right, and all that.

Anyways....carry on. I think the current Rams are fine trucks, and know many who have owned them with few to no issues...but after my last Ram was at the dealership

SEVENTEEN TIMES IN 18 MONTHS

I'll likely not ever own one again. Once bitten twice shy and all that.

 

this^. they have gotten better, not worse

 

I’ve owned em all except Ford.. The Tundra has been by far the most reliable.. let’s be honest, 130,000 miles and the only part that’s not OEM (other than chosen mods) is the water pump and spark plugs..But if I was in the market right now? And have recently considered buying a PowerWagon, out of the box it’s tough to beat? Just can’t let go of 50k for ANY new vehicle! Bottom line there is NO way I’d trust a Dodge with 130,000+ miles! Not even if it was a pavement princess.

 

These numbers are forever ingrained in my psyche when I hear anyone mention how great FCA is -
https://www.tundras.com/threads/2020-ram-rebel-talk-me-out-of-it.57665/page-3#post-1529891

my father in-law has a 2500 CTD. It’s been in for multiple recalls and had a failure in the DEF system. Truck has less than 40,000 miles on it.

 

Yeah I was warned off Diesel. Hemi would be the only way I'd do it.

 

The last series of vehicles I’ve owned were Toyota, Honda, Dodge. Toyota = No major repairs, Honda = no major repairs, Dodge = valve spring broke, ECU completely crapped out. Sat at dealer for over a month waiting for a new ECU to be imported, and the final straw was a front wheel that literally broke off. All before the standard warranty expired. Dodge can have the Queens interior but it does not matter due to poor quality. Just say’n

 

Tune me out @Kung

You should.

This thread is all speculation until we see a spec sheet, so comparing our wants against what is seen in other models is our only real option.

Tundra isn't some stellar truck. Sorry to break your heart but if it wasn't reliable then it would be the worst truck in the 1/2 ton segment. Right now I think we edge out the Titan.


Our current Tundra's interior sucks, mpg sucks, and payload sucks. For perspective: Nissans newest Frontier already has more payload than our paltry 1260 from a 1/2 truck.

When you see this new model and take into account all the time available to build something class leading, only to seemingly fall short based off of the current teasers, it's a little depressing.

To all the "good luck getting something that works". Who says this new truck will have the same reliability? Do a deep dive and I'm sure you'll find tons of dinosaurs on here talking about how turbos and EV offered by the big 3 will crap out and their Yota 5.7 will live forever. But now the Tundra will have these features and we are still tying "reliability" to an unproven model?

Ram is by the far the best truck across all segments. It's not crazy to hope that Toyota set their sights on that and gave us something worth the 60+ thousand price tag they are charging.

Unfortunately it seems like they are copying Ford, which sucks.

 

Yes, much like @TundraLaw who doesn’t own a Tundra anymore but is bored/ lonely enough to spend his time on this site telling how hideous the new Tundra is and how kick ass Ford is. Poor guy..

 

I'm gonna go join a dodge/ram forum and start preaching that tundras are superior trucks just for shits n giggles

 

Please do and feel free to stay there a while

 

Aww I think 1UP has some hurt feelings ... I actually don't have a problem with any other brand I think all the trucks are good for different reasons... but no I was just joking, I don't need to join a dodge forum just to troll people... I got this guy right here

 

Screen shots and post back here with your results!

 

Jk bruh, happy Friday!

 

Bahahaha pics or it didn't happen

 

You're not wrong. The numbers set out by Toyota aren't industry leading but the longevity of the truck is a pretty large detail here. Longevity leads to better retained value in the truck if you choose to sell it and it means the cost of ownership of substantially less down the road.

Reliability is the one of the main reasons we are all here.

 

Lol, no hurt feelings. Honestly I would probably agree with you if you were in the 2022 Tundra thread. But your saying thisnin the Interior sucks thread, and Ram with the best interior is used by a few of us as reference/bench mark. So talking about Ram makes sense.

Nothing really matters though.. it's just a truck and even worse, everything is conjecture at this point.

 

After reviewing more pics I would say I actually like the look of the interior of the 22 but I'm not sold on the exterior. That being said It took me a while to warm up to the gen 3 tundra and now I have one and love it. I probably just need some time to see it in various colors. Also I still want to see the headlights on the roof

 

All great points

 

I don’t own a Tundra either but most of the people on here are great and I enjoy talking with them .

That being said I’m not going to say I’ll never own a Tundra because I’m liking the pics on the new one .

 

Why? I'm not upset in the least, and I don't think you are either. You have a right to post here just like I do.

My response wasn't directed at you so much as it was to people who get seriously upset/out of joint about those who consistently have issues with the Tundra. It was in response to a post from someone who said he didn't come here to read about Rams or what have you.

That's why I said "I just tune them out." It wasn't at all because I can't handle people telling me what they don't like about Tundras. It's because at some point, it starts to crowd out the rest of the content.

(Although TBH, we've got TONS of pages of speculation and discussion and some argument and debate, so I guess we could say serious Tundra-related posts are starting to become the minority, I suppose. LOL)

Trust me when I say it takes one hell of a lot more than a bunch of arguments and discussion on a form for me to get seriously upset or to block someone. All is well.

Heart's not broken in the least, mainly because in my case, reliability is pretty much exactly and mainly why I bought my Tundra.

 

This. I know we joke and mess with each other, and I don't expect or even want anyone to have the same opinion as I do...but as for me, having been stranded in the middle of nowhere in the middle of winter with a malfunctioning cell phone, HOPING someone comes along that I can prevail upon to give me a ride....reliability is one hell of a lot bigger deal to me than it may be to some.

 

I tagged you after the fact, I was posting and you posted after and it kinda aligned with my post, so I poked you, lol
The response was just me mixing it up with @mikesTundra77

To be fair to all of you, I am salty about my 2019 I bought (3rd Tundra owned). I knew aftermarket would have to fix a lot of the "basic" this truck delivers. But reliability AND functionality were more important to me.

So I go boat shopping for the first time ever and realize (dumb me for not doing this beforehand) I can't tow the boat I want and load up my family. Payload is garbage. So seeing this new one and all its teases, my review/tone is a little sharper than maybe it would of been a year ago.

 

Can you not fix the payload by adding airbags or beefing up the leaf springs?

 

You can fix sag, and maybe even expand what the truck can safely handle, but your payload sticker is calculated by an engineer and doesn't change.

Get pulled over or in an accident and it's determined the # is exceeded and your in hot water.

 

Ah, THAT I can understand. I imagine I'd be pretty steamed myself. I don't tow all the time; I just wanted to be able to do the same stuff '13 F150 5.0L did (which is to tow a 14' trailer and occasionally a 20' or so camper, and use the bed quite often), but more reliably. Due to COVID, I was able to get one for *less* than a comparably equipped F150 for a change, so I was pretty stoked. (Plus, the local Ford dealerships around here are pretty crap.)

I'll also gladly admit that so long as resale value holds, I may very likely trade mine in, once the truck is released (and they become available).

 

What size boat are you looking at? You can usually tow a pretty big boat (compared to travel trailer) because the tongue weight is usually a good bit under 10% and the aerodynamics towing are so much better…

Everything loaded on my trailer is a little over 6,000 lbs and I have my family of 5 in the cab and coolers/chairs/gear in the bed. We have about 650lbs of people, 150lbs or so of gear/coolers and about 450 lbs tongue weight. I’m right at the limit (or slightly over) but the truck doesn’t squat and handles/drives fantastic.

 

My point Exactly- Take ya Fiat and discuss in the ram chat group!!

 

We had talked in the 3/4 truck thread and at the time I was close to 8,000 with a tandem trailer. Since then my wife has voiced her concern about my plans and I am looking for sub 5k and something my Tundra can tow.

 

Better late than never eh? .

We all made nice bruh

 

I don't think you need to own a Tundra to be on the site but if you don't own a Tundra and you’re here to be a troll and do nothing but provide negativity then I would say that would make a person a sadly lonely soul.