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2018 JBL Premium Sound Upgrade

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by 71_340, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. Nov 14, 2017 at 12:12 PM
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    Like most around here I am not overly impressed with the JBL system in my new Tundra. 12 speakers and a 440 watt amplifier should sound different. I probably read every thread about possible upgrades and the inherent difficulties do to the signal for the 2 Ohm speakers.

    I will upgrade eventually but definitely will keep the head unit. I like it and there are just to many vehicle features integrated to loose them.

    I found this today and it looks really promising, although pricey. They have a great install video on YouTube as well. Obviously, before spending that kind of money I will try to find some reviews and contact them to find out if their system works on the 2018 Tundra.

    http://oemaudioplus.com/toyota/tcm/
     
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    My 2013 was at least 50% louder. I am going to have dealer investigate when I get my first oil change...I don't think my sub is firing, and I had someone tell me there was some sort of internal amp fuse that was bad on theirs
     
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    $1,500 is a good amount of money but not really alot when it comes to fixing the audio system. I got a couple quotes and they where right around $5,000.

    Quickly looking that this system I personally would pass. If you are keeping your head unit you need to have a unit like the JL Fix to clean and level out the signal before it goes to the amp or you are just amplifying bad sound.

    What are you using as your source? I was using spotify and could not hear the radio well with the windows open and it turned all the way up. Yesterday i used a different input for the first time and it was louder/fuller. I found I had to change a setting on spotify and the stereo sounded a lot better. I'm still not a fan and still might redo the system but its better then it was.
     
  4. Nov 14, 2017 at 1:00 PM
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    That is my experience......can't hear the sub-woofer. Let us know if there is a fuse.

    Also, I just received a call from OEM Audio Plus and got some more info. If you have the JBL system you can only use this: http://oemaudioplus.com/toyota/jup/

    It comes with a separate bass adjustment knob which isn't shown.
     
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    I mostly use the integrated Sirius tuner as a source, I also used a USB drive and Pandora (via Bluetooth). They all sound kind of flat now.

    Just wondering, why would you pass? I did find some reviews and they are positive. I am sure for 5K you can get a better system but that is not what I am looking for. I don't listen to music really loud but like to have clear sound with distinct high and low frequencies unlike the muffled and flat sound the factory "premium" stereo provides now.
     
  7. Nov 14, 2017 at 4:58 PM
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    JBL surely isn’t Bose ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    I used to own a Cadillac Seville STS and a Mercedes S320, they both had a Bose system and they weren't all that great either albeit better then the Tundra JBL set up.
    Lets not forget we are in a vehicle here where sound has some serious obstacles to overcome (road and drive train noise and a lot of sound absorbing materials).
     
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    Whos doin the install? :)
     
  10. Nov 14, 2017 at 5:11 PM
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    If/when I buy the system I will do it myself. It is easy.
     
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    I dont know , I don’t have JBL in my truck but I had Bose system in 2 other vehicles and they sounded awesome!! I didn’t even think of upgrading when I had those , but that’s just me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    If your capable Id skip plug n play myself. A bit of homework and Black Friday coming up you can probably upgrade for under a 1000.00
     
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    If you dont mind paying for convenience grab the oemaudio stuff you posted! :)
     
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    Yes, it is convenient. You are probably correct that I could save some money by piecing together individual components.

    Problem with that is that I don't really know what I would need and then to properly match stuff. I have been a certified mechanic all my working life but I am not an electronics technician.

    With all that said, what do you have in your truck/ I am always open for suggestions and willing to learn, especially if it saves me money.
     
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    No problem, you decide you wanna tackle an install hollar at me I can help. :thumbsup:
     
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    Question for you proud JBL stereo owners. Can you actually hear the sub-woofer?

    This morning I turned the volume all the way up (played different songs too), opened the back door and raised the seat. Put my ear close as possible to the sub-woofer and never heard a sound coming out of it, put my hand on it and couldn't feel anything either. Odd!!!


    I am asking because before I spend any money on sound upgrades I just want to make sure that my system is at least working as intended.
     
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    I can hear my sub-woofer. Like you I'm disappointed that the "premium" sound system is not really premium.
     
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    It might just be better if my sub-woofer would work. I will check fuses and if they are all good ask the dealer about it, maybe there is actually something not working. After reading all the complaints I will not expect to much though.
     
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    The fix the flatness you need to have to fix the signal with a signal processor like the jl fix or you will just be sending the bad equalized signal to better speakers. This system that you posted did not have one from what I can see.

    Since you use pandora try this. Settings > advanced > higher quality audio. See if that fills in your sound at all.

    Also try playing a high quality song off your phone to see if it’s any better. It’s still not great but once I made some tweaks to my source it sounds a lot better than before.
     
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    You should be able to see the speaker move. If you don’t on a higher bass song it’s not working. It does not push a lot and a lot of the bass is sent to the door speakers instead of the sub.
     
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    I will try it one more time with the fader all the way to the rear which should eliminate the front door speakers. From what I can tell up to this point the sub-woofer isn't working, I will check all the fuses as well (if there even is a dedicated fuse for the woofer).
     
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    I'm not sure where the speaker terminals are on the factory jbl sub, but if you can get in there with a multimeter and see if any voltage is getting to the sub.
     
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    Not a proud JBL owner, just a JBL owner. My sub is definitely working and the sound far from impressive. Even the bass is drowned out on the freeway and will distort if pushed at all. Years ago I had a factory Bose system that was much better than this.
     
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    I was being sarcastic when I wrote "proud owner". I did complete my Toyota purchase survey today and then I wrote them a long email complaining about their "premium" system. I will probably never get a reply.
     
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    Oh I know! I felt the sarcasm, just stacked a smart ass comment on top. Good to hear that there is some real feedback going to Toyota, maybe I should do the same.
     
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    I think everybody should so they know there is a problem.

    To add insult to injury. I drove our shop truck today, a 2013 F-150 XL regular cab (the cheapest model the government could buy) and the POS base stereo sounds much better then my JBL setup. Sometimes I think that can't be real and that there is something wrong with it, it just can't be that bad. Might have to go to the dealer and complain about it. I can't even hear or feel my sub-woofer when I put my ear right next to it with the volume on 60.
     
  29. Nov 18, 2017 at 6:55 AM
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    Just picked up my 2018 Platinum CM last night, and I️ can attest that the audio system is anything but premium. A real shame. My wife’s Kia Sportage is much more crisp than the Entune premium.
     
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    Based on your description I don't think your sub is working. If I crank up the stereo while sitting in my driveway I definitely feel the bass, it just gets easy drowned out while driving.
     

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