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2000 Ford 7.3 .vs. 2010 Tundra

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by Wfdfirefighter76, Jul 16, 2019.

  1. Jul 16, 2019 at 12:51 PM
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    OK guys I need everyone’s opinion and suggestions. I have a 2010 Toyota tundra crew Max TRD with 150,000 miles on it. The truck runs like it’s brand new off the showroom floor. It does not leak or burn a drop of oil and I have taken care of it meticulously. The only reason that I am even considering selling it is because I found a 2000 Ford F-250 Crew cab with the 7.3 diesel that everyone knows as the bulletproof engine that runs forever. I’m considering purchasing it because these engines are becoming harder and harder to find but I’m having a really hard time parting ou crew cab with the 7.3 diesel that everyone knows is the bulletproof engine that runs forever. I’m considering purchasing it because these engines are becoming harder and harder to find but I’m having a really hard time parting with my tundra because it is comfortable and very reliable .. Does anybody have a suggestion or an opinion as to what I should do. I do not owe anything heavy right now but I will be purchasing a 25 to 28 foot offshore fishing boat that I will tow...
     
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    Not worth it to me. You would need to tow the boat 20,000 miles/ year to justify the fuel savings.
     
  3. Jul 16, 2019 at 1:06 PM
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    Thank you for the reply...
     
  4. Jul 16, 2019 at 1:11 PM
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    Taking all the numbers out of it, like 7.3 and 2000 and 2010 you basically have Ford VS Tundra. Lost me there really.

    You didn't mention the condition of the nearly 20 year old Ford. It would have to be pretty darned nice to get me out of a showroom nice Tundra that runs perfectly.

    10 years of newer to start with, I agree with koditten. I'd pass.
     
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  5. Jul 16, 2019 at 1:17 PM
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    Would you be willing to put in the work that will have to be done on the Ford? The engine will last but other components will break. Me personally I'd keep the Tundra and also buy the Ford as a project truck, but I love working on vehicles and as long as it's not my DD there's no pressure to keep the truck on the road.
     
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  7. Jul 16, 2019 at 1:55 PM
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    Thank you guys so much for your opinions. I needed that push over the edge to keep the tundra and that’s what I think I will do. If I get 300,000 out of it I would be happy and from what everyone says on forums I should with how well I’ve taken care of it...C32AB2CA-988B-499E-91AB-BC38A90BE899.jpg1667BC0A-CE70-43A5-BAC0-0EF8A0EA25FC.jpg E38F0806-50BC-4389-A360-2C01D0C1AB4C.jpg
     
  8. Jul 16, 2019 at 2:01 PM
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    It really depends on what your needs are. If you are planning on going heavy - then the Tundra might not be the right truck. The Tundra, especially the CrewMax, is very payload-limited. While the 5.7 can pull very well, often times you are limited on what you can pull because the tongue weight chews up the already small payload.

    You say you don't own anything heavy - but might get a big boat someday? How much does that boat plus a trailer weigh? If it is more than the Tundra can safely handle - then get something more suited for the job.
     
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  9. Jul 16, 2019 at 3:05 PM
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    I agree with what others have said, ONLY if you are within the limits. I have to assume a 26-28’ off shore boat isn’t really light.

    For some reason, the ol’ 7.3 gets put on the podium a lot, but I have to say, it still isn’t as reliable as other diesels.

    https://deadheaddiesel.com/7.3-powerstroke-problems/

    Some other issues is the fuel tank delamination. Might as well put in a nice aftermarket one.

    I also remember the heads leaking oil on the starter and messing that up.

    Leaking SOBs. If you have some of the leaks that can happen, you are either dropping the trans or pulling the motor.

    I changed out a HPOP once on a 7.3...no thanks.

    Careful adding tuners with the 7.3 as well. When you get close to 375-400 hp, you really need to get head studs.

    Would this be a daily driver? If so, I would highly suggest not doing that.

    Fords are also very specific on what oil to use to reduce foaming so the HPOP (high pressure oil pump) lives a long life.

    In closing, the 2000 model 7.3L PSD was rated at 235hp and 500#’tq. On a bigger truck, you might be surprised at how your Tundra will out pull it.

    Now you start talking modern diesels, not even a comparison. Then you have to pay for that awesomeness as well.
     
  10. Jul 17, 2019 at 7:16 AM
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    I switched from a power stroke to a Cummins. Then from a Cummins to a Toyota.

    First switch caused broken down occurrences to happen mich more frequently.

    But switch from Cummins to Toyota all together STOPPED occurrences of breaking down.

    Now, 5 years later, no $$ spent on breaking down, and no $ spent on truck payment. Just gas;) Lots of it. But at least it’s a planned expense. And my truck is extremely fast with a trd blower and bullydog.

    I’m not ‘anti-diesel’ it just pisses me off to have to fix something before I use it.
     
  11. Jul 17, 2019 at 7:22 AM
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    If those are current pics of the Tundra, I would not be getting rid of such a clean rig unless it can’t tow safely.
     
  12. Jul 17, 2019 at 8:17 AM
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    Just keep the Tundra and reduce the size of the boat to whatever it can tow. To me, if you can afford a boat that big you should also be able to afford the donkey to pull it. Just my $0.02
     
  13. Jul 17, 2019 at 8:43 AM
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    "2000 F250 crew cab Powerstroke. 350k miles. Just broken in. Bed's a little rusty, but the frame is SOLID. Will need a new driver seat because it's torn. There's some chew spit stains in the carpet (from previous owner). This truck has the LEGENDARY 7.3 indestructible motor. $30,000 obo. I know what I have. No lowballers. I won't take less than $29,999." - Every 7.3 owner on Craigslist.
     
  14. Jul 17, 2019 at 9:09 AM
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    If you’ve ever had to reseal the exhaust up-pipes from the manifolds to the turbo, you’ll know how bulletproof the 7.3L powerstroke is.

    If you’ve ever had the dipstick tube adapter bung fall inside the oil pan and had to fix that engineering marvel, you’ll know how bulletproof the 7.3L powerstroke is.

    If you’ve ever had the dual-mass flywheel fail on you, you’ll know how bulletproof the 7.3L powerstroke is.

    But compare them to the 6.0L powerjoke, then yes, they ARE legendary. They are an OK engine IMHO, nothing more.
     
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    How often will you be towing the boat? If it is too big and heavy for the Tundra (and will spend most of the season in a slip), maybe just rent a 3/4 ton truck for when you need to tow it too/from the marina.
     
  16. Jul 17, 2019 at 9:21 AM
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    All the hate on the 6.0, but no comment on the 6.4?

    I actually like the 6.0. My neighbor has an 05 6.0 250k on it. Only mod is a coolant filter and some wheels and tires. 1 injector replaced. 6.0 is the last of the non-controlled diesels. They will run for a good long time, but they are divas. People were just expecting it to do the same thing the 7.3 did on the same schedule they did with the 7.3 (NONE). Well it does the job better, but requires regular maintenance. I realize the early 6.0s were an issue. Yes, I know people literally died because ambulances with the 6.0 had failures on duty. Now, they are good engines.
     
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    Ha, 7.3 front suspension... let's not forget the 4r100 and its bullshit.
     
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    Gorgeous Tundra. No way I could look at that and a 2000 ford and even wonder what to do..
     
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    Ha ha. Man I forgot about those issues. Like stated earlier, way to many people really don’t know the 7.3L PSD and just pass along the “legendary” bullshit.

    One of my buddies just sold his F350 7.3 DRW diesel. He was tired of rotating between 3 trucks (his two and a buddies) due to break downs and purchased a clean ‘16 F-350 SRW to pull his huge 5th wheel toy hauler.
     
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    Most marinas have boat service/storage services. One of my coworkers uses this service for 20.00 per month, and in the winter, they will pull the boat, winterize (350.00) and store for the same cost per month.

    His fuel cost savings alone pays for that each month. Only time that boat comes out of the water is to go out of state.
     
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    My dad was in the same place earlier this year. Needed something to tow the fifth wheel camper. He went with the 7.3, and has spent a solid grand (in parts) just chasing issues. Keep the Toyota, unless you really need the extra 2500lbs of towing capacity. With that boat, you’d be just fine I think.
     
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    I say you sell the Toyota and get the ford depending on how much you want for the Tundra.

    PM me a price

    :)
     
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    There’s always one.


    You can PM me a price as well. :rofl:

    So maybe there’s always two.
     
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    I had a 96 7.3 that I bought in 07 with 120k for a little under $10k. 7 years later the HPOP went out and it needed injectors, IPR and ball joints and it had 376k on the clock. To repair everything it needed would have cost $5500. I sold it for parts to the shop it was at for $4k and moved on, I figured that that I got my money out of it.
     
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    I came from 2002 f250 7.3l
    To my tundra crewmax.
    They will run for ever .
    But I probably spent in 12 years owning it what my tundra cost new.
    I still have the f250 .
    I've thought about selling it a few times .
    But just can't do it.
    I drive it to work a day or so every week just to remind myself how much I love my Toyota.
     
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    Unless you need a diesel or don't drive very often and have deep pockets for repair I would keep the Tundra. 7.3's are great engines but however like anything they do break and parts are fairly expensive expect injectors at 200k and a tranny rebuild most likely somewhere around the same. HPOP's are known to go for a while and as long as the engine hasn't been tuned engine should be good for a minimum of 300k. All that in mind your Tundra will go most likely go over 300k just like the 7.3 but at 1/10 of the cost.
     
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    I came from a 2002 F250 with a 7.3, wish I still had the 7.3, the Tundra is ok and I like it but my 7.3 was a beast towing and with 286k on the clock the only thing I had go bad was an ICP sensor $25 and a CPS sensor $50. I averaged 20mpg hwy towing i was averaging 16mpg Hand calculated.
     
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