Why a Tundra over an F150?

This thread is gossping thread....

I like my Tundra because I likeeeeeee over other trucks....
End of discussion...

 

I work with a guy who has owned F150's with both the Ecoboost and the V8, and he says the V8 gets better mileage. I know the Tundras aren't exactly getting the best mileage either but what are we really talking about in the difference between full sized trucks? 3 MPG at most? I'll take the reliability and lower sticker price of the Tundra over a few extra MPG's with a Ford or GM.

 

Had a 2012 F150 Lariet Supercrew with the 5.0 V8, and had a lot of issues. Out of round cylinders with knock, oil usage, bad EPAS steering rack, repaint on lower sections of doors (no factory clear coat), shift strategy sucked, uncomfortable seats and according to Ford, “ it’s normal.” Really? Don’t buy a F150 EVER!

 

What I found is Toyotas get much closer to the EPA ratings than other brands. My Tacomas did better on hwy at 70 mph or less. In Tundra I can get over 17 at same speeds. I have found that idling and acceleration from stops are what really hurts Tundra mileage. Best thing about Tundra is chicks dig them. I hate Dodge's but can't wait to see a 2019 in person. From pics I have seen they really toned down that gaudy front end.

 

I'll tell you why
My brother and I both got trucks in 2015
Me a TRD Pro Tundra $45000 currently 62000 miles

Him a F-150 EcoBoost King Ranch $60000 roughly 25000

I'm a general contractor and spend basically all day in my truck driving from jobs to stores to suppliers and back
I have a decked Truck box system and currently holding 600 lb in my bed at all times when picking up supplies and other items I occasionally exceed the payload on my vehicle

My brother works in the office and Carries no payload

Tundra repairs thus far
Battery
Door check
Tires

Ford repairs
New brake system $600
125 hours of shop time luckily he had the extended warranty to replace both turbos the timing chain and a whole bunch of other shit in the motor they had his truck for 2 and 1/2 Weeks gave him a loner

Summary
The Toyota is still worth roughly $40,000
The Ford is worth $36,000

I'm not a genius but that's a pretty good return on your investment if you buy a Toyota
Plus Toyotas are made in Texas doesn't matter that the Japanese are making money what matters is that are texting boys have real jobs putting together real trucks
Wall Ford employees other countries to build their shit
Buy a Toyota

 

Update on the Ford made a loud clunking noise after the hundred and twenty hours of shop time now it's back in the shop for more Diagnostics Ford won't even give him a loaner stay away from Fords they will break down they will leave you stranded they cost more than they should

 

I would add this. Make sure when comparing models and price that you are looking at the right models. My wife and I went looking at every brand of truck. She really liked the sierra Denali. When we looked at the tundras we initially test drove a limited and neither of us were impressed by it. I realized that maybe we needed to make sure that we were comparing the top of the line models to that Denali so we went back to the toyota dealer and found the 1794 edition. We drove it home the next day. The Denali was just over 65000. We got the 1794 for 46000. Not all the same bells and whistles but my wife compares the 1794 interior to her lexus rx interior.

 

Well I didn't have $$$$ for a new truck, I'd pinched and saved, got in an accident with my old truck, decided to sell my old Lexus, between insurance $$$$, $$$$ from sale of Lexus, $$$$ I saved, I had $20,000.

I wanted a truck that was less than 10 years old. Looked at Tacomas, wanted one that was well optioned with crew cab, those are stupid expensive, figured out I could get a used Tundra for the same $$$. Test drove both, liked the Tundra better.

I also looked at Chevys/GMC's and Dodge Rams(the newer 2010+ body style). Those were similar price to a Tundra or Tacoma with the options I wanted(ie not a stripper work truck).

I didn't even consider Ford because IMO they made junk trucks in the 2000's. The old stuff from the 90's were pretty good, 5.0 V8, 300 cubic inch inline six, 7.3 liter Powerstroke V8, all those were solid engines. Seems like Ford made some turkeys in the 2000's, 5.4 Triton V8, read all kinds of bad things about them shooting spark plugs out the cylinder heads, 6.0 Powerstroke, 6.4 Powerstroke, all of these junk engines from Ford in the 2000's really soured me. I also didn't trust the 3.5 Eco-boost to be long term reliable, two turbos, intercooler, lots more complexity than a naturally aspirated V8.

Went with the Tundra, thought about a Chevy/GMC or a Dodge Ram, decided to stick with Toyota because I've had 3 of their small trucks that had given me great service, even with a bunch of age/miles on them. That and I really did like the Tundra, the interiors on the GM trucks sucked in comparison IMO(lot of them had cracked dashboards), the Dodge Ram is IMO a baddass looking truck but I wasn't about to roll the dice on a used one with no warranty/bunch of miles on it when it wasn't significantly cheaper than the Toyota option.

 

it depends how long youll keep the truck. if anything longer then 5 years get a toyota. the fords technology will be out of date if its still working and it will need numerous repairs around then if not before

 

Decide what's important to you. For me, it's reliability. I owned an '02 Tundra until just this year when I traded it in for an '18. The '02 was solid, dependable, and reliable. Hell, I ignored that thing and it always kept going!

I've owned two Fords in my life, both were problems from day one. So, if you want a truck you can count on, get the Tundra. If you want bells and whistles (and frequent repairs), get the Ford. Consumer Reports rates the 2018 Ford F-150 as 1/5 reliability. The 2018 Tundra is rated 4/5.

 

Not sure how you can accurately rate a 2018 on reliability unless just going off history. I had a 2001 5.4 plug spitting piece of crap. Soured me on Fords. Motor wasn't the only problem. Fords are tire, brake and ball joint eaters. When lower ball joints failed at 40k a Ford mechanic said I was lucky cause a lot of them fail at 25k. Sold truck with 90+ on odo and had already spent $4k on it. Some of that was just parts and my free labor. I also had the 1997 F150 A.KA. Mustang with a bed as a buddy called it. It was actually a pretty good truck. I owned Fords for 30+ years. Never again.

 

I posted the reason why and another Tundra owner posted a Youtube.

https://www.tundras.com/threads/traded-in-an-f150-and-upgraded-to-a-tundra.30504/#post-752570

Good luck on your research.

 

Upper ball joints on my '13 CrewMax were toast at 30,000 miles - that was before I put the lift on. I replaced the lower ball joints on my CrewMax at around 67,000 miles. Probably could have gotten 80,000 out of them if I wanted to push it - but they were pretty much done. My stock tires were done at 30,000 miles. I had the notorious cam tower leak at 14,000 miles. Had to replace my serp belt tensioner and idler. Point is, all manufacturers have problems. I think it is a crapshoot these days. Pick the one you like the best and hope for the best.

 

The screwy turn signel switch is enough to go tundra for me. I hope they fixed that since 2013.

 

???? How can you mess that up?

Never been in one so I don't know.

 

CR uses the last 3 model years’ reliability data to rank vehicles based on their reliability. I don’t want to break rules by reproducing an image of their data, but I will share the numbers:

Tundra ranks highest, at a score of 76.

Dodge Ram 3500 scores dead last at a reliability score of just 9. Pathetic.

Ford F-150 scores 44, the 250 scores 49, which is as close as any other truck scores for reliability to Tundra.

If there is any doubt about CR’s objectivity, remember that not so many years ago, they refused to recommend any Toyotas because of the handful of troublesome accelerator pedals.

No one touches the Tundra for reliability- none are even close.

 

It just lasts

 

Truck if the year means how much crap they can shove into the truck. Everytime I read about truck reviews the only real complaint about the tundra is that it lacks gadets Lol I love how my coworker compares his f150 fx4 to mine with all his bells and whistles.. but mind me he did pay much more for his truck. But he doesn't have safety sense lol. let's how long before the Ecoboost engine goes without trouble.