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Welcome to the Official SoCal BS/ Shenanigans, Tundras and What’s Happening Thread

Discussion in 'California' started by Sunnier, Dec 21, 2017.

  1. Jan 22, 2018 at 12:14 PM
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    Idk about that. It's been two tanks worth and I'm only filling a 33/10.5 , a 35/12.5 holds a lot more volume so it sounds about right...
     
  2. Jan 22, 2018 at 12:30 PM
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    Hi, Marty! I bought 3 portable compressors in the last month. Sent back 2 because the "reach" (power cord + air line) was inadequate for the length of a 3rd gen Tundra (actually tested in the driveway, wouldn't reach if valve stem of a rear tire was oriented toward the back of the truck). I wanted a cigarette lighter power adapter instead of battery clamps, if I could find something well-rated with a good running time (use between rest time) and not too slow. I also want it to be fairly small 'cause I'm cramming everything into my underseat storage.

    Anyway, after sending back the first 2, I ordered this. Sadly, this was one of those times that Prime 2-day shipping was guaranteed to span 5 days. :notsure: :playball:. So I didn't have it in time for our run :oops:, and was very grateful Mike was able to safe us all up. :militarypress:

    If you're looking to be a hero to the rest of us, that CO2 tank is pretty cool! :thumbsup:But I decided that for practicality, I won't do that unless/ until I can clamp it into the bed. There's no room to secure it in the DC cab, and I won't take the risk of having it loose to fly around in the event of a collision (kids changed my level of risk aversion).

    Anyway, most I found had a 20 minute max run time. This one has a 30 minute run time, should air one of our tires in <4 minutes, and it's small and well-rated. And inexpensive enough for you to also buy SDHQ ABS sensor protectors, if you haven't yet, for about the same mod money as those suggested above...!:transformer:

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    Mine should be here tomorrow. If you decide to postpone your purchase a couple of days, I can test it on the BFT and let you know how it is. If it works as advertised, it'd take awhile, but I could reasonably air up 2 or 3 trucks during the run time before rest.

    That said, if you get a sexy fast air tank, and if it's chilly and dark after our next meet-up, I'll totally be down for fast, free air...! :amen:
     
  3. Jan 22, 2018 at 12:43 PM
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    Well. I woke up thinking about truck mods. Gonna try and go back under for round 2 of today's sleep period. Enjoy your afternoon, Gentlemen.

    P.S. If any of you have experience with that compressor I ordered (described above), or cautionary tales about using a cigarette lighter plug instead of battery clamps, please jump in with the info. I'm not against trying yet again, if the one coming isn't good. And I certainly don't want to steer anybody astray....
     
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  4. Jan 22, 2018 at 1:51 PM
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    make sure you have your engine running if you use the cigarette lighter as your power source. made that mistake once lol
     
  5. Jan 22, 2018 at 2:48 PM
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    Great info Sunnier. I really like all the options everyone has suggested. I'm hesitant about hooking up to the battery but I like the idea of not having to refill every so often. I also like the speed of the CO2 bottle. What to do... What to do ... :annoyed:
     
  6. Jan 22, 2018 at 3:02 PM
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    It's simple. Leave the truck running, pop the hood, and it's two clamps that work like jumper cables. Powers the compressor with more juice than the cigarette lighter for a more powerful compressor. When you're done just pinch the clamps and pack it up :)

    You can also scour craigslist for co2 tanks cheaper than buying new.
     
  7. Jan 22, 2018 at 4:07 PM
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    All this talk about air, i guess I’ll chime in.
    I’ve had the Viair 400p for about 3 years now. It’s been a great pump and takes about 3 mins per tire to fill 35’s from 25-40psi. I filled mine and a friends 37’s once without duty cycle issues.
    The one issue i had was the power wires/air line be being too short to fill my pass side rear tire. Sounds similar to the issue @Sunnier had with her previous compressor. I just spliced in an extension to the power wires but in hind sight would just buy a longer air line.
    There are a lot of good options out there.
     
  8. Jan 22, 2018 at 4:25 PM
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    Thank for weighing in! I didn't feel comfortable splicing, but came across extenders for the cigarette lighter plug option:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=ama...sion&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
     
  9. Jan 22, 2018 at 5:43 PM
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    Thanks for the input JC. For the cost I'm really considering this route.
     
  10. Jan 24, 2018 at 10:17 AM
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    Good morning everyone :pccoffee:
     
  11. Jan 24, 2018 at 10:50 AM
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    So just curious why you guys go with CO2 for your gas of choice? I don't know that it would matter for tires but that stuff is nasty! Dirty. Why wouldn't you use just N2?
    Also @Sunnier I use a cigarette lighter air compressor for when I air down. It was some cheapy from Costco but it airs my 35's back up in a decent amount of time.
    Unrelated....what do you guys think bout this 4runner?????
    https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/d/2015-toyota-4runner-lifted/6469008561.html
     
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  12. Jan 24, 2018 at 10:58 AM
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    Great question. I'm not savvy enough to know if I can fill my co2 tank with n2, also didn't realize it was dirty.


    That 4runner... :smash:

    I like the full wrap around tube rear bumper but that's it haha
     
  13. Jan 24, 2018 at 11:12 AM
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    You "Cant" interchange gas types into a tank. The fitting on the end is gas specific to prevent that very thing from happening. CO2 is a filthy gas. It is either taken from the atmosphere or as a by product from something to do with burning oil or something...I don't remember exactly and I no longer play with Cryogenics. You can get food grade but that would probably make the price go up. I don't know the prices of gases any more...plus my department was great at spending money. Nitrogen is a much cleaner gas and not to mention lighter and should be the cheapest of the packaged gases. Plus a lot of tire shops already fill your tires with it anyway....or were. Don't know how many still do.

    That 4runner makes me:puke:
     
  14. Jan 24, 2018 at 11:14 AM
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    I think it's pretty sick...sorry I'm not from CA and crashing your thread, but the picture thumbnail caught my eye.
     
  15. Jan 24, 2018 at 11:17 AM
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    Hmmm... definitely something worth looking into. I don't have any issues with the co2 for now, but I've also never seen what co2 does to the inside of my tires.

    Well allow me to apologize for @Juanjoolio007 burning your eyes today! :rofl:
     
  16. Jan 24, 2018 at 11:31 AM
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    Well i did some brief and i mean brief searching and I guess it only makes a difference if there is moisture present for the corrosive properties to be a factor. Now there is some in air anyway but it might be negligible.




    Here is a "little CO2" tank that I helped install at a beverage facility that some of you may like to partake in.
     
  17. Jan 24, 2018 at 11:34 AM
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    I'm afraid to ask... what would be a "big CO2" tank? haha
     
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    I had no idea about CO2 being dirty. Interesting to know though. I'm definitely going to look into N2 as another option.

    I kinda think it looks cool :anonymous:

    If your throwing up should get that checked out by a doctor :rofl:just joking, I kinda like the 4Runner :eek:

    Always welcome to crash the party :thumbsup: I'm with you, it looks cool to me, but then again I know nothing about modded vehicles :notsure:
     
  20. Jan 24, 2018 at 12:00 PM
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    Did you install this at the kool-aid factory :eek:
     
  21. Jan 24, 2018 at 12:15 PM
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    I don't know that a little bit in gaseous form would be harmful. I would have to look more into it. Everything I did with CO2 involved it in liquid form and getting changed into gaseous form. I was just curious if there was a reason it was being used that way. Maybe I can learn something new. I was familiar with Nitrogen being used in different parts of the country. I don't know if it took off everywhere or if only in certain areas. That is a side effect of always moving. My new Tacoma in 2011(North Carolina) came with N2 in the tires. They used to mark those with green valve caps. But when we moved back to Oregon I don't know if I have seen or heard of anybody using it except...I think Costco does.

    Ill take some Pepto for the reaction to the 4runner lol....Maybe I shouldn't go to work tomorrow in case its contagious:thumbsup:
     
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    How is CO2 dirty? You breath it out.. N2 got popular for filling tires because more of it stays in the tires and seeps out less through the pores of the rubber. Carrying capacity of CO2 tanks is higher than N2 in turns of volume of air you can use out of the same size tank.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. We exhale it and plants absorb it. N2 is a waste if you off road a lot. I have it in my wife's car but that's it.
     
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    The amount of CO2 put into the atmosphere is about .04%. If that was the only way it occurred i guarantee nobody would be putting CO2 in their tires. Argon is usually the highest priced of atmospheric gases. Argon concentration of air is .93%. That would make CO2 about 23 times as expensive.
    here is a link for some CO2 info.http://www.uigi.com/carbondioxide.html. Now after you read that look into how CO2 + liquid react to each other. Granted i already admitted that the moisture in air may be Negligible. I am no engineer. Just someone that has seen what the inside of surfaces look like after they have Granted a lot of CO2 in contact with them.
     
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    Your telling me that in a 10 pound cylinder you get more atoms of CO2 then you do in N2? More science....
    CO2 vs N2http://www.uigi.com/n2_conv.html



    Edit:

    Again....didn't say you shouldn't do it.....was just asking why CO2. Use what ever you want.
     
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    The .04% of CO2 is what is in air or its concentration at atmospheric conditions... not what we put out or produce.. so im not exactly following your train of thought for pricing..

    anywho, anyone filling their tires from a CO2 tank is mixing that CO2 gas with air already inside their tires... to a concentration i doubt would bring any harm. I highly doubt anyone is filling their tires with ONLY CO2, or taking the time to fill with CO2 and then purge and then repeat it numerous times.
     
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    The .04 was not about whats in your tires. It was simply implying that if the only way we recaptured CO2 was by air separation units(which its not) CO2 would be one of the highest priced gases but would be produced in a "cleaner" method. That is how AR,N2,O2 are produced. Its the method in which CO2 is recaptured or produced that makes it a "dirty" gas. I like you doubt that anybody is purging out air and running on pure CO2. I just figured that N2 would have been the gas to use if someone was going to carry a cylinder around and was curious if there was a specific reason why someone would use CO2.
     
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    Good morning, Friends!
    Y'all may have already checked it out but, if not, Kevink wrote on his wife Lisa's 'Komodo and daily driver' overland rig thread, really specific info on what he did to install, carry overland, and cool nitrogen. Which he uses for airing up AND tapping beer!

    You may find yourself skimming through the technical installation bits :anonymous:,
    but he explains how, comparatively, the same size tank holds different "amounts" of CO2 vs. N2. Briefly, a small tank of CO2 will fill more tires than the same size tank of N2. Which has to do with the state they are stored in the tank, liquid or gas. It's a Super Geek smart thread with lots of awesome 'don't do this at home' ideas, he's done.

    For those at the meet, he's the guy I mentioned that stuffed 37's under his truck with NO LIFT but a pretty significant body mount chop. Good reading.

    @Juanjoolio007, Over the years, I've figured out that, if it's sold at Costco, it's durable, got great reviews, and usually is American made. I always check Costco before buying mechanical or "tool" type stuff but, these months since I've had my truck, they didn't sell one locally, so I went the order-and-return-repeatedly route.

    Mine came in Monday night. I plan to play with it this week and will share what I find out, @Marty McFly.

    No matter how many accessories and mods I want, I mostly purchase in the order I can justify for 1. safety; 2. convenience; 3.badassery--

    @Marty McFly, if I had your RTT rail support, and could mount a tank to one of the passenger side supports, I'd consider that. But since I don't, and don't want anything that heavy unsecured in the cab, I'm all about a portable compressor. For now. Down the road, if I can build the truck into what I envision, I'll eventually want an ARB locker...
    Big Playa, Airin' ALL the Tires!

    I think I'll be satisfied several years using a plug-in compressor as long as it can fill all 4 tires of mine + extra to share, within the 30 minute initial run time. And be small enough to fit under the seat. When I'm done with it for the truck, it can live in another of our cars.
     
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    Plus it pumps 78% nitrogen! :thumbsup:
     
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    This thread got way too technical for me :bananadead: lol
     

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