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Does any tolerance exist in Tundra payload numbers

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by TundraBeast, Jan 16, 2018.

  1. Jan 16, 2018 at 4:10 PM
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    TundraBeast

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    Pulling a 24' 1995 Lance at 5600lbs loaded with a 2017 Tundra Limited Crewmax. Just put a canopy on the truck and now pencil out 100lbs under recommended payload. Would like to throw a 100lb generator and some additional gas and other stuff in the back under the canopy. This will likely push the payload over the recommended. I get mixed answers from my cohorts. Some say don't worry about as long as you haven't exceeded Gross Combined. Others say never exceed. Any chance that Toyota is being overly cautious with their payload number? Other thoughts, opinions welcome?

    I've had no issues pulling the Lance at approx 200lbs under max payload Payload of the Tundra.
     
  2. Jan 16, 2018 at 4:58 PM
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    Danimal86

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    These trucks are beasts. Just dont over do it too bad
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  3. Jan 16, 2018 at 5:08 PM
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    gosolo

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    Your question has multiple facets and ramifications, both legal and mechanical.
    How much risk are you willing to take?
    How much risk are you willing to subject others to?
    You may be able to move a load triple the rated payload if you stay under 35 mph on a smooth paved road. Do you think it’s a good idea?
    The limit that Toyota Corporate designates is partially based on engineered limits of the components and partly based on a need to limit liability.

    In a nutshell, if you’re exceeding the limits and an accident occurs you are going down.
     
  4. Jan 16, 2018 at 5:31 PM
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    It doesn't sound like you are going over the max by too much. To keep the weight down, don't put any water in the holding tanks before heading out...most camping sites have a filling station near the entrance.

    I've never heard of an insurance company weighing RV's or trucks after accidents to ensure you weren't over the max...just take it easy and make sure you change the oil/transmission according to the recommendations for trucks that tow...it's more often.
     
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  5. Jan 16, 2018 at 9:48 PM
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    I put 3k lbs of gravel in the bed of my 4x4 crewmax not long after I got it and I was happy that I only had to slowly drive 5 miles like that. It was obviously too much weight for the tires and truck. I'm not sure if it was just the tire sidewalls flexing or the frame (likely both), but it didn't feel safe.

    The most restrictive weak point contributing to the payload rating is the stock "Load Range D" tires. Upgrade those to "Load Range E" and add some rear airbags and you'll give yourself a comfortable buffer to work with.
     
  6. Jan 16, 2018 at 10:00 PM
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    I was so going to type this out. Well said.

    When dealing with accident investigators the past four years, they can point fault due to being outside the limits of equipment. I know that is what saved me 580000.00.
    On the insurance side, they are going to pay no matter what.
     
  7. Jan 17, 2018 at 1:08 PM
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    gdiep

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    You have a little leeway. However, too much payload can lead to purpoising and exaggerated sway. It can be an uncomfortable tow. Okay for short distances.
     
  8. Jan 17, 2018 at 10:15 PM
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    That's a good point I assumed you have anti-sway bars. Since winds in Colorado can reach 80 mph (seriously, they tip over 18 wheelers), we've always had anti-sway bars on our towing set-up. (My favorites are called the Equalizer hitch system...no chains, just some pins you hook them in with.) I highly recommend them.
     
  9. Jan 18, 2018 at 5:37 AM
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    I have a WDH with anti-sway. However, an unbalanced load cannot be controlled by even the best system. And anti-sway does not do a thing to prevent porpoising.
     

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