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General Supercharger Thread.

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by snivilous, Mar 18, 2021.

  1. Feb 19, 2023 at 7:44 PM
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    There's a set of instructions from Toyota for 2007-13, and a slightly different set for 2014+

    Ok nevermind I see your update that you also did it lol
     
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  2. Feb 20, 2023 at 4:20 AM
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    Thanks for sharing, I wasn’t aware of this difference between the magnuson and Harrop in regards to the TB wiring. Seems like Harrop tried to make it easier with a harness but only introduced a failure point. May have to do this to be proactive instead of having an issue roadside.
     
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  3. Feb 20, 2023 at 7:06 AM
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    I just reused the oem tb harness with zip ties to avoid any potential issue. Theres minimal tension on the wiring after a little reroute.
     
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  4. Feb 20, 2023 at 8:31 AM
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    Well hell...with the Maggy on, the Stillen intake tube is to long. And the custom tubing would require a rework of my adapter or some absurd offset couplers...

    I gotta figure this out quick like. Anyone got a Maggy intake for sale cheap?

    PXL_20230220_162713947.jpg
     
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  5. Feb 20, 2023 at 8:33 AM
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    Would a silicone coupler reducer cover the gap? These are up to 6" long!

    https://hpsperformanceproducts.com/...forced-transition-hose?variant=40803544924350
     
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  6. Feb 20, 2023 at 8:37 AM
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    It's hard to see from that picture, but the intake tube is offset to the rear of the TB. I'd need two offset couplers, one 4.5" to 4.5", and a 4.5"-3.5". The offset reducing couple is proving hard to find

    PXL_20230220_163530431.jpg
     
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  7. Feb 20, 2023 at 8:39 AM
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    Wow, that's miles off...not sure what your options are, other than modifying that box to change the entry angle.
     
  8. Feb 20, 2023 at 8:46 AM
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    The intake tube that comes with the Harrop is flexible, wonder if that might would work for you? Temp MAF rube replacement until you find a better solution? Top right in this pic
    upload_2023-2-20_10-44-25.jpg
     
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  9. Feb 20, 2023 at 8:47 AM
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    That sucks & I'm going to have a similar issue. :(
     
  10. Feb 20, 2023 at 8:49 AM
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    Maybe. I'm going to think on this till this afternoon. Other option is to order the TRD Intake Tube, if I can verify the Supercharger part number separate from the non s/c TRD intake tube.

    https://parts.sparkstoyota.com/p/TR...0300140AC.html?clickSource=relatedPerformance

    https://parts.toyota.com/p/Toyota__...-Air-Intake-System/69528501/PTR0300140AB.html
     
  11. Feb 20, 2023 at 8:53 AM
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    You may be able to buy at least the lid off of this guy. He was switching to a non SC lid. https://www.tundras.com/threads/wanted-stock-air-box-lid.120026/
     
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  12. Feb 20, 2023 at 8:54 AM
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    The bottom half of the airbox is the same as any 07-13 tundra which can probably be found cheap and easy. I have the magnuson tube and clamps I could send you.
     
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  13. Feb 20, 2023 at 8:57 AM
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    Fuel delete mod Cup holder upgrade
    I would rework your printed part to accommodate parts as they are available. The other option is to use a duct coupler to route your intake through it and seal it off in similar manner like I did.

    When I looked at offset coupler reducers they only dropped in 1/2inch increments and the elbows make them hard to trim down to cover shorter lengths.

    A flexible coupler pipe like @armyoffoo is suggesting could work to but the largest size I could find was 4 inches. Spectre #9775
    https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00553PQCY?ie=UTF8

    PM me your addy and I can ship it out to you at no cost.
    NOTE it is not recommend for boost applications.
     
  14. Feb 20, 2023 at 9:00 AM
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    Will pm you. I'm thinking I could get away with using the magnuson tube and some couplers. I may have to get the stock lower box back out of storage since it looks like it's outlet is more in a straight line with the TB than the still is.

    I gotta go do some work work, though. Monday's UGH
     
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  15. Feb 20, 2023 at 9:00 AM
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  16. Feb 20, 2023 at 9:01 AM
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    Damn job getting in the way of life!

    :D
     
  17. Feb 20, 2023 at 9:05 AM
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    Not a whole lot of flex to this one. I have a longer one off of the Supercharger parts store that is more pliable but longer and it is rated for boost applications.
     
  18. Feb 20, 2023 at 9:05 AM
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    Sounds good. Just be aware the magnuson lid won’t work with the factory 2014+ lower air box. 14+ is a good bit smaller.
     
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  19. Feb 20, 2023 at 9:05 AM
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    Same problem here. I should be out doing more data logs but nooo, gotta work
     
  20. Feb 20, 2023 at 9:19 AM
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    I wonder if the boosted rating is in regards to positive pressure, like if used for turbo outlet charge piping. I’d guess it would probably be ok on a SC application where it would be more of a slight vacuum.
     
  21. Feb 20, 2023 at 9:47 AM
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    Not sure but a good point. The Amazon listing states "Not recommended for turbo-charged and super-charged engines". The product box gives no such warnings and only states its for an intake. What I've found is some couplers list their PSI ratings but most don't.

    This particular product is pretty stiff so not a lot of flex to it. I have a flex coupler from the SCer parts store you linked that is rated for SCs but it is longer and more flexible. Personally I don't like the ribbed surface, I think it will generate turbulence but I'm not an ME/Aero guy so what the frack do I know. In a pinch to get the project running I think it will be fine while he figures our a permanent solution.

    Looking at the small physical envelop and the tight angles I would work from the TB side into the box to figure out a solution. You can redesign your 3D printed part but you can't change the TB angle or dimensions.
     
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  22. Feb 20, 2023 at 10:34 AM
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    Anyone know about Magnuson serials & build dates? The SC has a 2017 date but the bag the pump & injectors were in have a '21 date.

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    Injector and pump bag.jpg
     
  23. Feb 20, 2023 at 10:53 AM
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    This is getting ridiculous... here is a Parts/Price list for converting my existing fuel delivery setup (2x6AN pump feeds to Y-block 8AN to engine bay Y-block back to 2x6AN feeds for fuel rails and 2x6AN return to FPR and 6AN return to tank) to a 8AN solution from pumps to FPR.

    Prices are totals where Qty greater than 1, not including tax and shipping, void where prohibited, available while supplies last, may cause uncontrollable flatulance...

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    Wow, that's pricy.
     
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    Some of these fuel mods seems a bit unnecessary unless you’re running a +5 psi pulley and sending it down the drag strip every weekend, or making frequent pulls from 0-120. But that’s just my dumb opinion, and humble income speaking.
     
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    It is definitely overkill for now.
     
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    Nice! What compression ratio?
     
  29. Feb 20, 2023 at 11:52 AM
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  30. Feb 20, 2023 at 11:52 AM
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    Whatever this forum told me to do
    update...

    Well…It needs a re-tune. Alex said the present tune is 90% of what he expects.

    If I drive like an old man (I do), then this tune is OK. However - I want it ideal.

    650 injectors are @74% at WOT. this is good
    MAF is smooth. this is good.

    Bad:
    AFR’s don’t drop below 11.4
    AFR bumps to 13 @ 4200rpm. Not good.
    The cat protections thing is messing with the AFR.

    So…he is fixing all that.

    should be done later today....Can't get over to Tomball till Wed.


    Life is still good.
     

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