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What is the best supercharger option for an 06 tundra?

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by PaulsWall02, Nov 4, 2022.

  1. Nov 4, 2022 at 6:21 AM
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    Hey guys. I am looking to get all of the build components lined up for my future 06 dc, 4.7L 4x4 one of the biggest mods I am going to want to do is a supercharger. I am just curios about which one would give me the best performance, I am really only aware of the TRD supercharger, and the bullet HTV1900. Whichever option I go with I am not wanting to compromise any of that classic Toyota reliability, or durability. If there are any other blower options worthy of mention please let me know.

    Thanks, Paul
     
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    I'm not sure I've seen one for the VVTI 4.7 V8. Maybe Magnuson?

    The TRD ones stopped being manufactured sometime in the 2003-2004 timeframe for the non-VVTI V8 engines.
     
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    Just edited it.
     
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    I currently have Toyota s with the 4.7 and 5.7, both great engines. To get a leap in performance with a 4.7 and maintain reliability just swap in a 5.7, wait, in your case just buy a 2007 or newer with the 5.7. The 5.7 has a lot more spunk and if you still want to drop the dollars on a supercharger it is a proven 500+ hp reliable performer. The 4.7 isn’t going to compare.

    Good luck finding the right Tundra for you!
     
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    I lost my long post by accidentally hitting the back button.

    Long story short I'm saving for a centrifugal charger kit made for a 4th gen 4Runner that should bolt on with some tweaking. And building a bottom end to handle 12-15psi of boost with E85 compatible fuel system. I'm conservatively aiming for 400+ wheel torque.

    You have options but most bolt-ons are going to be north of $7k. The VVTi 2UZFE has support in Australia and some Lexus guys at LexTreme build supercharger parts for our engines.

    Do some searching and you'll find some rare VVTi TRD chargers, and from what I've read the non-VVTi TRD charger can be adapted to our engine with difficulty.

    How much do you want to spend? And will it be worth it for you in the end? Hate to say it but I've seen a lot of new members with low post counts asking for the moon but ultimately getting a reality check and abandoning their dreams. This trend is not limited to Tundra's. Seen it in the Honda world in the 90's, BMW in the 00's, it's a tale as old as time.

    If you want some easy speed without spending 5 digit sums, get long tube headers, and a 4.30:1 rear gear (on stock tires). Total investment $3,000 and you should be reasonably happy with results. Don't worry about an air intake or exhaust, does very little for power. Search for posts by my user name and you'll see dyno results from before/after headers.
     
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    The forum auto-saves as you type. A lot of times, if you just click the forward button again, or go back to the thread you were typing in, then hit REFRESH (or F5), it'll bring up the text that was visible up until about 60 seconds before you left the page.
     
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    I'm on mobile and hitting forward didn't return my post. May be why my post is slightly grumpy.
     
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    Ok, let me try to be more helpful now that 'posting disappear' rage has subsided. I've done quite a bit of research on the subject.

    The 2UZFE is a bit of a red-headed stepchild as far as the tuning world is concerned. The VVTi flavor especially. The 1UZ are stout and popular engines, the 2UZ has more displacement but arguably weaker bottom end.

    The 2UZ weak point is the rods. Toyota stopped making the TRD charger because of warranty claims for damaged engines, amongst other factors. Because of this weak point you can really only safely run around 7psi on a stock bottom end.

    That being said, what is 'best' to you?

    If you want better part throttle power and low RPM torque go for a whipple or roots type blower. These kits are around $10,000 and are hit or miss if they include engine management or injectors. I know there are a couple Australian companies that make roots type blowers for these engines as the 2UZFE was a popular platform there. I don't think Magnusen makes a 2UZ charger, but I vaguely remember a US tuner making a roots kit, possibly for the V8 4Runner.

    If you want higher RPM power and better part throttle/low speed traction go with a centrifugal. Rotrex makes a V8 4Runner kit that comes with injectors, engine management, intercooler, and all the trimmings. It can be adapted to the 1st gen Tundra with modification to the intake and intercooler piping. This is the route I plan on going, mostly due to the lower entry price of around $7,000. Also I tuned my base engine for low end torque, want some giddy-up and go in the higher RPM. Another reason I want the centrifugal charger is because I already break traction in the wet, even with an LSD. I still want placid enough road manners my wife can drive the truck and not accidentally wrap it around a tree.

    So here we are. You have to answer some questions for yourself. Spend close to $10,000 on a truck for an extra 100hp and get supercharger whine clout and big smokey burn outs? Or spend around $3,000 on strategic work and still get plenty of smiles per miles?

    You also still have to factor in what your future truck needs maintenance-wise. Timing belt, water pump, tune-ups, ball joints, rust, etc. These are fantastic trucks in stock form. And can be a ton more fun with modification. Get your truck. Get it running tip-top. Do some reading and research. Then when you're absolutely ready set that credit card on fire from swiping it so much.
     
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    At the end of the day if you don't especially care what the power-adder is you just want more horses you can turbo charge your engine too. There's a guy on here who came out of left field and ebay turbo kitted his Tundra. I think he went over safe boost limits and grenaded his engine if memory serves correct.

    Turbo will also negate the need for headers. Just be safe with the waste gate set to 6-7psi and resist temptation to turn the wick up. At least without 1UZ rods in your block...
     
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    $10k on a $7k truck :rofl:
     
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    It's not unheard of, and some people spend far more than that on their vehicles on just wheels and suspension.

    Hell, I've known plenty of guys who spend more money on a stereo than their car is worth.

    Personally I've probably spent close to 10 on my truck already. Stereo, interior customizations, misc electronics, injectors, custom headers, full exhaust, used engine, reman VVTi heads, new headlights, the list goes on. But I also have a clean dealer maintained 1 owner (I'm owner 2) southern truck with 130k miles and no rust. Doesn't hurt that I'm older and make decent money.
     
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    This guy gets it. 6k in wheels.

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    I wasn’t judging, I’ve got way to much money poured into my 5 various 1st gens.

    You want to talk about investing in depreciating assets :rofl::frusty:

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    At least the 1st gens are appreciating :thumbsup:
     
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    Elate offers a full TVS kit for the Land Cruiser 100 series. Should work fine on the tundras with some changes to the heat exchanger and intake tube

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    I think I'm 12 Gs into mine so far. I may only get 12 miles per gallon, but I get a helluva lot more smiles per gallon. Nothing makes my day better than hearing that roots blower whine.
     
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    Your best bet is to just buy a 2007-21 Tundra with the 5.7. You can open up the breathability a bit by directing airflow directly into the air box. But if you want significant power gains you need the gen 2 Tundra. Best bang for buck that way.
     
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    [​IMG] Hey guys, sorry it has taken me a while to reply. I honestly forgot all about my post:rofl: I'm not gonna lie tho, I think the 2nd gen tundra is fugly :/... I'm just a big fan of the 1st gen tundra. It has legendary reliability and once I graduate with my B.S. in a year I plan to get an 05/06 model in phantom greyand kit it out to give me as much power, off road performance, all while retaining its reliability in an overland-esque setup. I am not planning on spending every last penny I make, but money won't be a huge problem.:)
     
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    Skip the supercharger. Plan to swap in something worthy. That'll pretty much guarantee it'll last forever.

    Skip the timing belt and oil changes, but have something cool ready to go once it shits the bed.

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    That first part didn't make sense to me :confused:

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    I just meant its a 2 bolt main block with weak rods. There are better engines out there for making power. The 2uz is better for being smooth and lasting a while if its understressed.

    truck looks good for a DC.
     
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    Hell, put in a 1UZ. Stock blocks with studs and MLS head gaskets can handle 800hp. Less displacement and no VVTi but offset with strength.
     
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    @Mr.bee what engines are you referring to?

    P.S. there is a company, Xat Racing, who makes forged connection rods for the 2uz.
     
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    1UZ rods fit in the 2UZ as well.
     
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    there a guy on lextreme that machined his block for 1uz main caps, too.
     
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    Main issue with doing rods is that you should really rebalance the rotating assembly. 1uz rods are almost 50g heavier than stock. The aftermarket Eagle rods are about 30g heavier, still requiring a rebalance if you don't want a shaky mess
     
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