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Has anyone needed aftermarket UCAs to get a good alignment with a 1.5" lift?

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by nickrick78, Jan 25, 2023.

  1. Jan 25, 2023 at 11:50 AM
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    Looking at 4600s with Dobinsons springs and an Icon AAL. Should lift about 1.25-1.5" all around.

    Has anyone done this and needed aftermarket UCAs to get a good alignment?

    Planning on running 265/70/17.

    Thanks!
     
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  2. Jan 25, 2023 at 11:53 AM
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    no way.. not until approaching 3"....then again you are talking 1st gen... so.... my 2.5 gen not in the same ballpark
     
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    You should be just fine with stock UCAs on 1.5" of front lift.
     
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    Why 4600s instead of 5100s?
     
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    I don't want to go higher than 1.5", the only benefit to 5100s is ability to go higher. Keeping these truck mods mild.
     
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    I didn’t know you can run any lift spring on the 4600. Aren’t the 5100s longer?
     
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    Also I’m running that size tire at stock height. Hoping to go to 285s soon with dobinsons and 5100s.
     
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    1stgenoffroad.com says I can run a Dobinsons c59-300 and it will achieve a 1.5" lift. The only benefit to 5100s is the ability to go higher.

    4600s and 5100s are identical inside.

    I am at stock height right now with the 265/70/17, staying at this size tire. Just want a better ride, appearance, and performance than the Monroes that are on it.
     
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  9. Jan 25, 2023 at 1:07 PM
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    Thanks guys
     
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    This sounds like what I might want to do to my truck. I don't want the hassle of 3"+. But I'd love a little more leveled look.

    Didn't realize the 4600s were the same as 5100s. What's the total cost you're looking at?
     
  12. Jan 28, 2023 at 11:02 AM
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    1stgenoffroad.com

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    Thank you!
     
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    Update, I misread the response from 1stgenoffroad.

    They said for a double cab 4x4 it'll be 1.25-1.5" lift roughly. So might not exactly be 1.5"
     
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    That lift may potentially leave a double cab with about 1" of rake in the rear, beyond the stock rake.

    I'll be really interested to see pics once complete and things settled.
     
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    As in, 1" more rake?
     
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    You definitely have a point.

    In fact, I'm second guessing doing the AAL. I am contemplating doing everything else and seeing where the front ride height lands.

    But I do want some rake (rear higher than front), and I just discovered ATS springs and General springs, so I may skip the AAL and get new HD springs from one of them.
     
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    Yes.

    Consider any rake you have now. Add that setup. You may very well land with 1/2" to 1" more rake after the fact.

    Some people love rake. I know I do - when I see a perfectly level truck, it almost looks like the ass-end is squatting to me. It looks "off" to me. Trucks are meant to have at least a little rake, the fender-wheel gap should always be lesser in the front than the rear IMO.

    But you do you. Everyone has their taste. I know guys who prefer totally level, some who like a little squat, and others who prefer rake. It's a personal preference.
     
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    I just got confirmation from ATS that their HD springs fit the AC and DC. So I'll probably go that route, for a couple hundred bucks more I'll get new leaf packs.

    Quote from ATS

    "Once installed and settled you should expect the rear to sit about 1.5-2" taller than factory spec. These are not lift springs but due to the extra capacity of the spring it won't sag under its own weight as easily."
     
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    Ended up going 5100s all around with Dobinsons coils and HD leaf springs. JBA UCAs
     
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    Pics or it didn't happen :rofl:
     
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    Not identical angles but gives you an idea of the before and after the 5100s/UCAs. The HD leafs were already on there

     
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    Awesome! Now do the headlights! :militarypress:
     
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    Next is tires. Thinking LT255/80/17E Toyo Open Country ATIII.

    Right now I have P265/70/17 Coopers.
     

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