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Key fob remote start range

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by raylo, Jan 22, 2023.

  1. Jan 22, 2023 at 11:24 AM
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    Except after your first year you have to pay Toyota a subscription fee to keep this functioning. If it is only $80/year, I agree, although distasteful to have to pay that will work for me. But if they jack the rates? I dunno.

     
  2. Jan 22, 2023 at 11:30 AM
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    I’m not really worried about that, would a like a free app, yes but, it is what it is

    a lot of the aftermarket ones charge monthly for phone access as well
     
  3. Jan 22, 2023 at 11:38 AM
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    Right, any that use LTE will charge a service fee. But the point is you don't need to use the cellular service because the RF range of the fobs and 2-way function is sufficient for any circumstance and there is never a charge for that. You own it and use it as you see fit.

     
  4. Jan 23, 2023 at 12:52 PM
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    Just back at the truck, and had to try this insanity...

    Yes, it brakes when you try it... However, don't close the door, don't shut down, just shift to Park, and back to Reverse, and while it will beep, and complain, it'll back up with the door open. Same applies if you wanted to go forward. First time brakes, and then it'll work.
     
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    The remote range is not that great, but the remote start works great for me. I also experienced the brake when opening the door, but as stated earlier, you do not have to turn the car on and back on. You just simply put the car in park and then put it back in drive or reverse, and it will go.
     
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    Can someone please confirm the exact sequence to starting with the fob? It seems to be different for me every morning.
    Two quick presses on lock, then a third long hold on lock, correct?
     
  7. Jan 25, 2023 at 6:09 PM
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    I do it 3 evenly spaced (about 1 sec apart) and just hold the 3rd ~4 seconds.

    Once I am close enough or decent/clear line of site that works every time
     
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  8. Jan 25, 2023 at 6:38 PM
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    If you end up going this route I can provide some insight. I installed a CM-DC3. I'll attach part of the manual so you know what your getting yourself into. The kit was purchased through https://accessorides.com/products/2...lay-push-start?rq=yr_2022~mk_toyota~md_tundra and is about half plug and play, half spicing / bypassing wires. I want to say there was roughly 10 or so spices / bypasses that had to be made. If you're decent with wiring and pay attention to detail, this shouldn't be an issue. BUT the wiring is very small, you'll be working in a rather tight area, and there are no mistakes allowed :) I'm going to go out of a limb here and guess you'll only get to let the magic smoke out of the immobilizer, BCM or ECU once :devil:

    Here's the connector where the immobilizer splice is made and was not well pointed out in the instructions, for example:

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    Everything else was pretty straight forward. For the average DIYer i'd give it a 6.5/10 only because you need basic wiring and schematic reading skills that some DIYers might not have. Not very difficult and you're not making any modifications that can not easily be reverted back to stock. I took my sweet ass time because why not, and I want to say the entire install start to stop took around 3 hrs. Keep in mind, you have to complete the wiring process, plug in the module to read the immobilizer code and then REMOVE AND RETURN the module so the programming process can be completed by the authorized installer. IMO that was the worst part. Not because its hard, but after all this work you want to just slap it in and go! Anyhow, I hope this helps provide some insight.. here a few cliff notes as well:

    Press lock button on OEM fob 3 times for remote start, OR.... Use CL6 CarLink app to start truck, OR... use Toyota app

    (does not lose function, or interfere with anything we've done to the truck) FWIW I've been to the dealer multiple times for extensive warranty work, to include pulling two of the timing chain covers off to fix a coolant leak and never had any questions asked.

    You can opt for an external antenna with aftermarket remote, although I chose not to go this route. I've done so in the past and they work great, I just didn't see a need as I went with the cellular option, and it is quick and easy to operate. You'll get a year of wireless service included (4g LTE connection to the module) and once that is up you can renew for 3 years of service $99. Well worth it in my opinion, but to each their own. It is also worth noting that the module can be easy installed to where in a freak event that there was a failure, you can easily bypass the module and the truck will operate just as it would in 100% stock form. There is a jumper for the immobilizer bypass connection (routes rolling code signal through the module and then back to the immobilizer) that you should hang onto and keep in the glove box for just this reason.

    EDIT: Not sure how I forgot to mention that the remote start supports take over! By far the biggest selling point for myself. Hop in and drive off.. No much shutting down once the door is open. Of course you must have the key on you to do so, but that's a given!
     
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  9. Jan 26, 2023 at 3:03 AM
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    This is great info. I know that this can be a very invasive install and messing with those tiny ECU wires is not for the faint of heart! I did a similar install with a Clifford RSX 3.5 on my 2009 Tacoma in 2009 and it is still working perfectly today. Had to pull the steering wheel in that case to access immobilizer wires at the ignition switch. AND cut and splice those huge power wires for a satellite high current relay module.

    Did your install entail cutting and splicing any of the main start or accessory wires? I am assuming that these days the device may just use the CANBUS to trigger the process and not need that? Mine was apparently not smart enough to do that in 2010 hence the need for the satellite relays.

    I also looked at Fortin website since that is the immob bypass I used last time and was very impressed. They have a T-harness of some sort and I am guessing that you unplug one or more of those truck connectors, plug in the t-harness into the junction box, then plug the connector you removed into one part of the T and other part goes to the remote start/immob box. This could eliminate or at least minimize wire splicing. But I haven't found the full documentation.

    Wow, $99 for 3 years for cellular service makes that a no-brainer. But these aftermarket remotes have great range even with the small hidden antennas. My Clifford works for maybe 1/4 mile, which is adequate for almost any situation. And many go even further. But for $99 I'd also do the cellular.

    One problem I would have for this install is that the Tundra won't fit in my garage. The Tacoma barely did and it was a real PITA to work in that cramped space. One other issue is that mine is a 2023 and there are often subtle wiring differences. I'll have a look at the idata site to see if they have the 2023 info.

    And yes, these aftermarkets work the way the Toyota one should. Engine keeps running and will only stop if someone tries to drive it before the key is inserted, or with push to start, before the fob is sensed.



     

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