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Is the hybrid really only good for the extra power? Is there no real exchange for MPG?

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by RickyBobbysTundra, Dec 22, 2022.

  1. Jan 22, 2023 at 10:37 AM
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    kerplunkster38

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    .5 seconds is for certain not a noteworthy difference for a truck's 0-60 time. In fact it is within the margin of error in terms of measurement. There have been a multitude of 0-60 tests done with these 2 trucks. Some put the non-hybrid faster, some put the hybrid faster. Differences are all negligible (.4 to .5 seconds difference). I don't understand why people can't just admire the performance of this heavy truck regardless of hybrid vs non-hybrid. One isn't better than the other. It all comes down to what you prefer and what you like. Nothing needs to be justified.
     
  2. Jan 22, 2023 at 10:55 AM
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    I agree on the .5 seconds, that isn’t doing anyhting for me

    for me it’s super simple, I want underseat storage this time and see no benefit worth 3500 bucks and it adds more shit to go wrong.

    but for those that do, let rip and I hope your happy

    if they had the 7.2kw built in generator like ford that may be different
     
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  3. Jan 22, 2023 at 11:25 AM
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    Driving super conservatively on surface streets, temp 60f, with a few miles downhill and staying at 55 or under I was able to get a little over 20mpg... If I drive regularly, not trying to conserve, its more like 15. Engine not broken in yet.

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  4. Jan 22, 2023 at 11:31 AM
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    Ya that’s too new to be any meaningful data , wait till you get a couple thousand at least
     
  5. Jan 22, 2023 at 11:51 AM
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    In my opinion, testing this hybrid design with the truck unloaded is not going to produce the result that people are expecting which is fuel economy. So, if any hybrid owners here are willing to load up their hybrid Tundras close to payload capacity and drive it around the city-stop and go- that will help us a lot. This hybrid set up was implemented in some Hino medium duty trucks up to year 2019 I believe. No longer offered here in the U.S. So the criteria: city driving, truck needs to be loaded heavy or tow heavy. Then, do the same thing with a non hybrid truck. When you this test, it needs to be "long term." Maybe a month or so to get more real world result. Stock size tires too.
     
  6. Jan 22, 2023 at 1:30 PM
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    Exactly my reasoning here. Same as yours.
    1. Want storage under rear seat
    2. Less things can break without the hybrid powertrain and batteries to replace after ten years
     
  7. Jan 22, 2023 at 8:44 PM
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    Built In 7.2 KW inverter is nice but do people realize that will degrade your hybrid batteries even sooner? Of course depending on how often you use it.
     
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    That was one of the things I love about the power boost ford... not a deal breaker because there are other options like an eco flow powerstation or a red arc red vision system to meet that need.
     
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  9. Jan 23, 2023 at 6:27 AM
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    It mute anyways as Im buying a tundra and the ford broke down on my test drive so that eliminated it from consideration

    but in theory , it wouldn't matter for me as I don't keep these things 10-15 years
     
  10. Jan 23, 2023 at 6:55 PM
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    It’s a generator, not an inverter.
     
  11. Jan 23, 2023 at 7:19 PM
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    Technically it is an inverter generator.

    It uses a non-coupled motor/generator to feed a power converter. The power converter supplies regulated DC to the batteries which also act as a power reservoir for the inverter. The PWM inverter is what supplies the AC as it does not come from a direct coupling as a regular generator does.
     
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  12. Jan 23, 2023 at 7:26 PM
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    F-150 hybrid has batteries with stored electricity, Batteries do not generate (DC) power they simple store it. The inverter is what converts it to (AC) so you can power your skil saw etc.
     
  13. Jan 23, 2023 at 7:30 PM
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    Correct. But first and foremost it is certainly a generator and not simply an inverter.
     
  14. Jan 23, 2023 at 7:32 PM
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    The f150 being discussed in this thread has a 7.2kw gasoline generator onboard.
     
  15. Jan 23, 2023 at 7:42 PM
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    Ford's own website says " Can be used like a mobile generator", that's their marketing department .

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    I can’t tell if you’re disagreeing with me but my father has a F150 power boost. It has a gasoline generator onboard.
     
  17. Jan 23, 2023 at 8:15 PM
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    Every vehicle has a gasoline or a Diesel generator onboard called an engine. Ford F150 hybrid has an inverter that converts energy stored in batteries and even when the engine is running Direct current to Alternating Current.

    Toyota Tacoma since 2005 has had a 400W inverter in the back :cheers:
     
  18. Jan 23, 2023 at 8:33 PM
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    You should probably do some research. The F150 Power Boost is a unique vehicle. An engine by itself is not a generator. I’m not going to continue the back and forth.
     
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