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22 Tundra TRD Suspension Lift Kit

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by gr8fasushi, Sep 11, 2022.

  1. Nov 29, 2022 at 6:21 AM
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    TRD Lift Kit TRD Skid Plate TRD Running Boards Nitto Ridge Grapplers (35x12.5) OEM Bed Step OEM Toyota Tonneau Cover (Quad-Fold) 3M Window Tint (matched factory rear) Spray-On Bedliner
    Blueprint at NWRocks? what lift is that? It doesn’t look like the TRD lift kit…
     
  2. Nov 29, 2022 at 6:57 AM
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    That is super helpful - thank you. Looks like the 35x12.5R20s will still work
     
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    If anyone is interested i'm happy to make a deal with a Forum member. Would be neat to see it go to another Tundras guy. Price is OBO so feel free to take a swing.
     
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  5. Nov 29, 2022 at 12:58 PM
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    Taikowaza,
    I'm having the lift kit installed next week on my Limited TRD Off-road model, and like you I would like to retain the TRD skid plate. I see from your post that you asked them not to use the kit sway bar spacers but to use the factory end links.
    I admit I don't know enough to know if that can cause any problems. Would you or anyone else on the forum be willing to weigh in on that and educate me? Is there a downside to not using the spacers? What are the spacers for anyways, if they aren't really necessary.
    Thanks for any help and insight you can give.
    SJE
     
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  6. Nov 29, 2022 at 1:07 PM
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    The only real issue in using the factory end links vs the included spacers is that it will limit your front articulation while off roading. It will prevent you from using your full amount of down travel in the front suspension. It doesn't cause any real safety issue that I can think of.

    If don't off road very much or very seriously...then it's not much of an issue. That being said, if that were the case, then I would ask why you're spending so much $$ on a suspension lift and not just saving a few grand by getting a nice preload collar.

    Either way...from a safety perspective, you'll be fine telling them to use the OE end links if you'd like.

    On a side note...another option is to split the difference and go with a smaller sway bar spacer from Icon (or another brand). Icon's sway bar spacer is 3/4" and you can easily drop the skid plate down that far with spacers & longer bolts. Just throwing out another option if you want a middle ground.
     
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  7. Nov 29, 2022 at 1:25 PM
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    KroppDuster,
    Would you please explain what you mean by down travel up front? Does that mean limiting the amount the suspension can compress? And since I haven't seen the kit installed to see the geometry I'm not sure why the TRD skid plate can't be used with installation of the spacers. I wonder if there is a way to modify the skid plate mounts to make it work? If there is no way to do that - then what would you use for a skid plate? The plastic plate that came with the truck is really light weight and doesn't cover/protect very much either.
    Thanks for educating me!
    SJE
     
  8. Nov 29, 2022 at 1:45 PM
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    KroppDuster

    KroppDuster Out with the old and in with the...older?

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    Here are some graphics from Bilstein that do a good job at explaining up & down travel.

    Your travel (up or down) is the distance by which your wheels can "travel" and thus remain in contact with the ground. Your 3 primary things that limit your down travel are:
    • Your Upper Control Arms
    • Your Coilovers
    • Your Sway Bar
    upload_2022-11-29_13-34-1.jpgupload_2022-11-29_13-34-18.jpg

    The provided spacers change the mounting location of the sway bar by dropping it down by a few inches. There simply isn't enough clearance with the sway bar and the TRD skid plate to do that. If you have the TRD Skid Plate right now, slide under your truck and put a finger between the sway bar and the skid plate where the bar passes behind the skid plate. You'll see the Toyota only has minimal tolerances built in. Dropping the sway bar by anything more than .5" (my guess) would cause the sway bar to come into contact with the plate.

    You can add spacers to the skid plate and drop it down by the same amount...or simply not use the sway bar drop brackets at all. As discussed above. The install instructions of the TRD Lift instruct the techs to cut notches into the ballistic nylon skid plates so they can be reinstalled with the lift. The TRD skid plate can be reused with the drop bracket, but the only trade off is that it no longer protects your sway bar. It still provides a lot of protection for the bottom end of the engine though.


    I'm sure there are skid plates out there being designed to accommodate for these sway bar drop brackets. I added spacers to my skid when my Icon setup got installed. See by build thread post here. This might help illustrate what I'm talking about with the spacers.

    I hope this helps!
     
  9. Nov 29, 2022 at 5:06 PM
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    KroppDuster, It’s so kind of you to give me all that information! Thanks so much! If I drop the sway bar, can the TRD plate be notched out to allow the sway bar to clear it - similar to how the factory plastic plate is notched out. Obviously it is different to work with the aluminum skid plate than that ballistic nylon one.
     
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  10. Nov 29, 2022 at 7:01 PM
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  11. Nov 30, 2022 at 8:24 AM
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    No worries, mate. That's what the forum is for.

    To answer your question, you don't need to notch the TRD Skid Plate to make the sway bar work with it. It will "work" with the skid plate as is, but it will just be outside of the skid plate. See below.

    upload_2022-11-30_8-16-14.jpg

    The TRD Sway Bar drop bracket looks like this. The red dot on the picture is where the sway normally is located in its factory location. The bracket drops it down by an ~1.5" and moves it forward slightly.

    upload_2022-11-30_8-17-30.jpg

    Notching the skid plate isn't really going get you anywhere. Your three options are:
    • Use the TRD Sway Bar drop bracket as intended and live with the sway bar being outside of the skid plate (& thus susceptible to possible damage).
    • Don't use the drop bracket and tell your installing dealer to use the factory end links, allowing you to leave the sway bar under the skid plate.
    • OR use the TRD sway bar bracket (or another brand, like Icon, that doesn't drop it as far) and then drop your skid plate by the same amount using spacers.
     
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  12. Nov 30, 2022 at 9:09 AM
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    KroppDuster, that is super helpful. I can’t thank you enough. My plan is therefore going to be to use the sway bar drop with the kit. Then have a guy who has done marine fabrication for me (a genius with welding and design) modify the TRD skid plate by welding on brackets to make it fit.
     
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  13. Nov 30, 2022 at 9:11 AM
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    Taikowaza

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    THANK YOU KroppDuster for your insight here re: the TRD lift kit and the TRD skidplate!!! I appreciate your confirming that there’s no safety issue reusing the factory end links instead of spacers. I understand that this limits downtravel in the front suspension. I have kept all unused TRD kit parts, my goal is to install them once I figure out a way to keep the TRD skid. I didn’t want to lose it.

    I like your middle ground option: using the Icon 3/4’ sway bar spacer and dropping down the skid might be a superb option. Thanks for listing the three options! It was great to see the pic of the sway bar being outside the skid plate! I didn't even know this was a possible option.

    Note: reading through things again, I don't want to buy the icon part but would rather use the original kit bracket and make it fit as sjeoid will do!

    Re: your third choice, if you or anyone else has done this (keeping the TRD sway bar bracket) I would be glad to learn what skidplate spacers and longer bolts you used. Or if there are other ways to use all TRD lift kit parts and still have everything be protected by the TRD skid plate. I still can’t believe that Toyota released the skidplate and then the kit and that they don't work with each other. We should all get a new version of the skidplate designed to work with the kit. They advertised them in images as working together with sway bar inside (protected by) the plate. Any lawyers on this forum let's get Toyota to do this for us :)

    I took the notes below from your posts KD, combined them as they helped me w/understanding. Cheers!

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    The only real issue in using the factory end links vs the included spacers is that it will limit your front articulation while off roading. It will prevent you from using your full amount of down travel in the front suspension. It doesn't cause any real safety issue that I can think of.
    If don't off road very much or very seriously...then it's not much of an issue. That being said, if that were the case, then I would ask why you're spending so much $$ on a suspension lift and not just saving a few grand by getting a nice preload collar.
    (My reply: this kit is infinitely better than a preload collar (Westcott etc). I don't want to limit my front travel, but want to keep the TRD skidplate. I'll learn what spacers and bolts to get and then have the factory end links swapped w/the spacers)

    Either way...from a safety perspective, you'll be fine telling them to use the OE end links if you'd like.
    On a side note...another option is to split the difference and go with a smaller sway bar spacer from Icon (or another brand). Icon's sway bar spacer is 3/4" and you can easily drop the skid plate down that far with spacers & longer bolts. Just throwing out another option if you want a middle ground.
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    The provided spacers change the mounting location of the sway bar by dropping it down by a few inches. There simply isn't enough clearance with the sway bar and the TRD skid plate to do that. If you have the TRD Skid Plate right now, slide under your truck and put a finger between the sway bar and the skid plate where the bar passes behind the skid plate. You'll see the Toyota only has minimal tolerances built in. Dropping the sway bar by anything more than .5" (my guess) would cause the sway bar to come into contact with the plate.
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    You can add spacers to the skid plate and drop it down by the same amount...or simply not use the sway bar drop brackets at all. As discussed above. The install instructions of the TRD Lift instruct the techs to cut notches into the ballistic nylon skid plates so they can be reinstalled with the lift. The TRD skid plate can be reused with the drop bracket, but the only trade off is that it no longer protects your sway bar. It still provides a lot of protection for the bottom end of the engine though.
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    I'm sure there are skid plates out there being designed to accommodate for these sway bar drop brackets. I added spacers to my skid when my Icon setup got installed. See by build thread post here. This might help illustrate what I'm talking about with the spacers.
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  14. Nov 30, 2022 at 10:55 AM
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    This is with an RCI skid plate, but I used square and rectangular tube that I had laying laying around as my spacer.
    Same concept should apply to the Trd skid plate. Tube Cut to length, drilled some thru holes into it, painted it. The final lengths and paint job are different but this is the only pic I took of them DCEE65C7-DDAD-486B-A885-52251284B8EF.jpg E5C8641F-F193-4D8A-B49D-895F2ADAF36C.jpg 71B7BCBA-192D-4B7A-8DE8-6747ED0E2014.jpg
     
  15. Dec 2, 2022 at 10:46 AM
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    KroppDuster, Any idea how long the bolts would have to be if I add a drop bracket to the TRD lift plate? Thanks!
     
  16. Dec 3, 2022 at 7:32 AM
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    I unboxed the remaining parts left over from my install today. Some are unused especially the two sway bar spacers and end links, which I plan to install once I find a way to keep the TRD skidplate with them.

    If you have a sense of these things, can you let me know which small parts I can toss, that don’t have any resale or reuse value? I’d also be grateful to know in general terms what the used value of the parts worth selling is, to get me in the ballpark of what to ask for them

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    Any issues installing these Fox shocks on your platinum?
     
  18. Dec 6, 2022 at 6:33 AM
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    Any idea where I can get these lucky ? looking for the TRD Pro Dealer can not get it.
     
  19. Dec 6, 2022 at 6:38 AM
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    Trying to find if there is a difference in axle length between the black and the red. If I find that the red are indeed longer or higher angle ? I would like to purchase the two axle from you.
     
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    I will keep looking. Maybe some slightly used ? Plenty of guys remove them and go for higher lift. Thank you for your help
     
  22. Dec 6, 2022 at 1:35 PM
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    Yes, if anyone is selling their 2022 TRD Pro Fox shocks, please PM me.
     
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    Yes, I have the same problem (pile of parts in the basement and not time to install). Other than the shocks is there anything else I'd need to install the OEM TRD Pro Fox shocks on an SR5 with the TRD Offroad package? Can I reuse my existing front sway bar and end-links? You mentioned the rear springs. Are those unique to the TRD Pro?

    Thanks,
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    Looks like the front shocks on the TRD lift kit are similar in function to Bilstrom 5100’s. Anyone tried buying just the shocks & using as a leveling kit with the factory springs?
     
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    Hmmm..looking at the tie rod angles and cv angles toyota didn't ready this as you articulate your tie rods and cv axle is limiting flex...I'd be concerned..
     
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    hey brother - great looking truck. I have my lift kit ready for late Dec install.

    Q: What is the height of your garage door? It cleared the fin by how much?

    Thanks.


     
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  27. Dec 13, 2022 at 9:16 PM
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    Currently Searching....
    Huh?
     
  28. Dec 14, 2022 at 5:05 AM
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    Thanks TundraLtdCo! I’ll be happy to measure distances etc. I posted about my clearance pre-install in an earlier post I’ll have to find it.

    edit: here’s that post: https://www.tundras.com/threads/trd-lift-kit-pricing.97663/page-7#post-2956673


    I can compare with clearance now. If you DM me I can correspond w/you. Work busy this week may need a few days to focus on measurements. Happy to help. Excited for your upcoming installation!
     
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    TRD lift done on my 22 1794 TRD 6.5 2 shots of just the lift and original tires (265/60/20) and 2 pics with 35/12.5/20 the 35's are just too big as they rub the frame at full lock so i am down sizing to 285/60/20 tomorrow

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    Congratulations DaAusie!! Looks fantastic!!!
     
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