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Where or how did some of you guys get your knowledge?

Discussion in 'Recovery & Gear' started by Spolar, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. Apr 22, 2017 at 10:12 AM
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    Most of the resourceful people I have known came from a farm/ranch/rural background and usually working class folks where fixing building shooting harvesting repairing and inventing go hand in hand with surviving.

    Add the ability to read watch and listen with critical thought plus the willingness to be a moderate risk-taker and you're well on your way.

    @osidepunker seems to be the only one here so far that understands the value of going alone. There's no better way to learn what you're capable of than having to do it yourself. Just be sure that you have weighed the risks: if you're going to maybe have to spend an unplanned night because you are stuck, do you have food water, shelter? Can you fix a couple flats and air up the tires? Etc.

    There's a lot of great advice available on here and lots other resources too.
     
  2. Apr 22, 2017 at 10:51 AM
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  3. Apr 22, 2017 at 3:42 PM
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    landphil Fish are food, not friends!

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    When I was about nine my dad brought home an old lawnmower that his co-worker had run out of oil. That was the start of my mechanical training, with some guidance from him and a mechanic friend, my brother and I did get it running again. We later swapped motors on it (it was a high end Snapper self propelled unit), and collected dozens more small engine projects

    At the age of 11 or 12, I started buying / collecting my own tools, doing mostly small engine work, by 14 I was working on our farm truck, and my dad's pickup. (It was a GMC, and it needed a lot of work, regularly) Hmmn. Good thing I was a GM fanboy back then. Also good I learned from working on Dad's to reconsider and bought a Toyota. I did learn more than one lesson the hard way, which is the most effective way to learn, but also usually the most inconvenient and expensive. Taking on smaller, simpler projects and working your way up is the way to go. With today's technology, there is plenty of good info on forums, youtube, etc, but of course there is bad info with the good must be weeded out.

    That turned into working on neighbours vehicles in the small remote community that I grew up in, then onto 10 months of trade school and a 4 year apprenticeship, and field training on top of that. Add 15+ years experience after that, and I'm still learning. But I also like to share my mechanical knowledge with others, much like many did for me.

    As for outdoor adventures, I'll go alone where I wouldn't recommend others without the same experience go, but I have back-up plans, and go well equipped for the possibilities of what could go wrong. I carefully weigh situations and try to avoid unnecessary risks. Some of that goes back to learning lessons the hard way. But I live for my wilderness alone time.

    I do agree that newbies are far better, and safer, to off-road, etc in a group, to gain knowledge and experience before heading out solo.
     
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  4. Apr 22, 2017 at 7:15 PM
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    But a Ford. You will learn fast. Lol
     
  5. Apr 22, 2017 at 7:39 PM
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    Spolar [OP] Going broke

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    Agreed. I've taken the truck out solo a couple times (solo with the wife) with confidence. Not such a newb that I can't change a tire or get unstuck with some basic recovery gear. Definitely a newb if I broke a tie rod, spindle, or crazy stuff like shattering gears or hydrolocking the engine like some stuff I've read about on forums.

    But I'm smart enough to know if I'm solo to take it easy and not try anything stupid. Also always take a couple days worth of water, some food, blankets, etc just in case like others have mentioned. I've always been big into backcountry backpacking and now that I'm getting into the "overlanding" thing I'm taking the same mindset: make sure you have what you need if you need it. Hoping to keep meeting guys on here, get the truck out more, learn more, etc etc. This thread has been a good read so far.
     
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  6. Apr 22, 2017 at 7:57 PM
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    @Spolar you posted a good question and got some good responses. You sound like you've got good sense and are squared away. When I was going through my early learning curve about self extraction I intentionally put ourselves at some risk and twice ended up with an unintended overnighter. A couple times I hiked back and borrowed another truck. Once in the bottom of the Salt River canyon I got airborne and destroyed 1 rim and another tire. After rolling both up the trail for a couple miles and getting to pavement I got to a garage and got the owner to let me use his equipment to put the good tire on the good rim. We learn as we go and the process includes a lot of fun and adventure! Never stop!
     
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  7. Apr 22, 2017 at 8:34 PM
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    Alex is not the only one that goes in alone....trust me...and on way harder terrain.

    I agree though, you learn a lot, but also have to possess the capability to learn and be creative.

    Then again, wheeling alone sucks, and one of the things I hate the most about shift work.
     
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  8. Apr 22, 2017 at 9:08 PM
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    JMB Not new, just a little old.

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    Sometimes I think some of it is genetic. I've always been good with math and mechanical things. Can't keep a beat with a metronome, draw without a straight edge or paint, unless it's a wall.

    But as many have said, don't be afraid. Study what you want and do it with confidence. Since I'm much older than the internet, chiltons, haynes and the library were my friends. Shipfitter apprenticeship and mechanical engineering degree didn't hurt either. Especially since being a shipfitter didn't pay that much in the 80s, meaning if I wanted to play and eat, the money went to food. Play was the fruit of my labor.

    Good tools are a must. Not being afraid to fail also. And as Clint Eastwood said, "A man's got to know his limitations." For some things it's best to go with a trained professional.
     
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  9. Apr 25, 2017 at 5:24 AM
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    This is a key concept I forgot to mention. Always keep risk in check. This applies to any type of activity. If I am wheeling solo, I am not running the trails the same as if I am wheeling with a group. I wont jump the truck or take hard lines or bomb trail fast. Same thing goes if I am with a group but I am doing an extended trip. For example, last nov Speed Glampers Uberfahrt did a run through Mojave and Death Valley. I knew that I had 700 miles of back country trail over 6 days, then after the trip I was driving to Portland to hang with family, then back to SoCal. So I was very conservative on that trip. But when I run anza-borrego with friends, I know that I'm only an hour from home and I have buddies with me so I'm not afraid to run like this:

    https://youtu.be/_FJCkF7FWGg

    THIS ^^

    Wheeling alone doesn't suck, but having trail buddies is definitely fun! Just two different types of experiences.
     
  10. Apr 25, 2017 at 5:47 AM
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    Where did we get our knowledge?

    We learn from experience, that we learn from experience.:thumbsup: All knowledge is not from college.
     
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  11. Apr 25, 2017 at 9:28 AM
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    Some I've learned the hard way lol
     
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  12. Apr 25, 2017 at 9:53 AM
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    Exactly. Use the forums, youtube, advice from friends, schooling as a guide but its all in the experience of doing it yourself that you truly learn.
     
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  13. Jun 28, 2017 at 9:35 AM
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  14. Jun 28, 2017 at 6:54 PM
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    I have a masters degree in Google search.
     
  15. Jun 28, 2017 at 9:07 PM
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    I gotta GED in dumbassery
     
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  16. Jun 28, 2017 at 11:24 PM
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    I graduated from high school
     
  17. Jun 29, 2017 at 12:05 AM
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    gosolo You Don’t Know Who I Am But I Know Where You Live

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    @Spolar you got lots of feedback, some good, some great. How do you feel about your path now? What new direction are you going? Just curious, many men are too proud to ask the question you asked.
     
  18. Jun 29, 2017 at 1:45 AM
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    No new direction, just keep learning as much as I can wherever I can. Never was a car/truck guy growing up and now I'm just trying to learn as much as I can. Also never too proud to learn from guys who know more than me about something. I still don't know much compared to some guys around here, but what I knew a short time ago versus today is night and day.
     
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  19. Jun 29, 2017 at 3:45 AM
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    Many thanks to my Dad!!! A jack of all trades AND master of all... plumb weld carpentry electrical mechanical had every tool for every situation...learned so much from him thanks to some friends who passed on some knowledge YouTube big help and the great guys on here :thumbsup:
     
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  20. Jul 25, 2017 at 6:50 AM
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    I've always been happiest begin outside, pushing my limits physically, creatively, whatever. About 8 years ago, still in SoCal and right after our youngest was born, I decided that we needed to spend more time outside on adventures as a family. Digging in the dirt. Running through the desert. Looking at the stars. So, I bought the FJ, met some folks on what used to be socalfjcruisers and just started doing.

    Every couple of weekends we were doing something. Cruising Borrego. Exploring in Idylwild and Big Bear. Seeking out the dirt backroads of SD and Orange county. There's all kinds of stuff out there and I found Borrego to be a great training ground. This book is super handy. Little bit of everything out there.

    Sometimes it was just us as a family, other times I was solo, or out with guys from ExPo or OAUSA. Once I started digging around ExPo, I realized what I wanted to do and that I didn't really know anything. So, I started reading everything I could get my hands on.

    My education is as an engineer but I'm a self-taught photographer and business owner. Not a fan of the engineering these days but it helps in situations like this because I love building stuff and working with my hands. One of the first books I picked up was the Vehicle Dependent Expedition Guide. Once I got through that, I realized the FJ was totally wrong for what I wanted but I tried to make it work.

    After moving to Denver, there was another learning curve to get over. The mountains. Completely different aspect of nature but totally amazing. One thing I did that was a confidence boost was taking the wilderness medical course at REI. I already had training through an EMT course but the wilderness class took it to another level. It's not always vehicle situations that you'll need to fix.

    What I've found over the years, is that there will always be situations in this hobby of ours where nerves/fear/panic will set in. Whenever that starts to creep in, stop, breathe and clear your head. Take your time. Patience. Don't overreact. In my past lives as a scuba instructor and surf photographer, I've been in plenty of those situations. It all carries over.

    Just keep doing what you're doing. Learn small things which get you to learning bigger things. Take something apart and put it back together. Practice.

    If you're really into heading down the overland path, I'd recommend getting on ExPo and going through the trip stories. Some amazing adventures there. Also, overlanding Australians seem to have this really figured out. Overland Journal is a great read for this stuff and there are lots of nuggets over at American Adventurist.

    One thing I've been meaning to do but just haven't been able to make work yet, is to attend an Overland Expo. A weekend of knowledge transfer that would be difficult to find anywhere else. Plan is to get the truck as complete as possible by the end of the year and try for next year's event.

    As has been said quite a few times already, just focus and do. Use the forums to point you in the right direction but take the advice with a grain of salt. Everyone has things and ideas that work for them. You need to take all of that and mash it into something that works for you.
     
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    Dude this thread is awesome!! I'm in the same boat as @Spolar just trying to learn and there is so much knowledge in here!
     
  22. Feb 11, 2018 at 9:31 AM
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    To add to my post #19
    Never installed a radio, but YouTube became my best friend.....
     
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    Before I bought my Tundra, I had next to no experience fixing things other than changing a tire. Had never touched suspension, and only learned how to MIG weld when I was 20 while having an internship turn into a part time job over a winter. Once I made the decision to lift my pickup, I decided that I didn’t want to pay a shop to put it on. Luckily for me, I work in commercial agriculture and grew up around a lot of farm boys and mechanic types here in rural Colorado, so I had a lot of help. My neighbor is possibly the best mechanically-minded person I’ve ever met, along with having a two post lift and a metric shitload of tools. That guy once tore apart the top end of his Duramax, and had it running the next morning. And through this site, I met @Thegr8punkin, who came down and helped us when we couldn’t figure out what to do on the front end. I owe him quite a bit for his help. I’m still no expert when it comes to fixing things, but I like the challenge and learning, so I did a lot of research and have good people that’ll help at the drop of a hat. It’s always best to learn hands on and have resourceful people around ya.
     
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    learned all my knowledge for doing. been over my head a few times but kept at it and came out on top. spend my time reading and watching videos and doing the repairs. dont be scared to jump in and learn. I also learned from a buddy saying oh im going to be doing this this weekend and i would be like can i help. Craftsman tools fill my 52" double stacked tool box and i slowly buy what i need after getting a killer deal on a mechanic tool set from sears. start small and work your way up. dig in and get your hands dirty
     
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    It’s really a shame we don’t teach this stuff in high schools anymore. I rebuilt engines, did bodywork, and learned to weld while still in high school.
     
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    I was born in a shop lol , so i learned from my dad as he was a mechanic and his father before n before ... the biggest tip i can tell you that will help with any work or fabrication is.
    Patience, attention to detail , take pics of before and while you take apart for notes , pay attention to bolt lengths an even lay out those bolts in the pattern taken off, clean , compare new part to old part and even torque working in cross patterns. Those things will save you allow you to grow in said skill set.
    Much love n blessings to all .
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