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Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Bluetoyotaguy, Apr 15, 2022.

  1. Apr 16, 2022 at 3:52 PM
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    I'll admit, I didn't look that closely and spaced that possibility.
     
  2. Apr 16, 2022 at 4:17 PM
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    Thanks so much man really appreciate it!!!!
     
  3. Apr 16, 2022 at 4:26 PM
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    Also, that 2 inch puck gives 4 inches of lift.
     
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  4. Apr 16, 2022 at 4:32 PM
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    I wanted to say that it looked bigger than the 2.5 inch ones. I was thinking it was a 3 inch kit
     
  5. Apr 16, 2022 at 4:38 PM
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    It was advertised as only a 2 1/2 but I suppose it could be three
     
  6. Apr 16, 2022 at 4:38 PM
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    Beef n bread which brand upper control arms do you have?
     
  7. Apr 16, 2022 at 4:43 PM
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    Measure how thick it is. Whatever number you get, multiply it by 2. Your answer will determine how much lift get from it.

    Check my first post.
     
  8. Apr 16, 2022 at 4:57 PM
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  9. Apr 16, 2022 at 5:00 PM
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    The puck in about 2in so that would be the 4in lift which is the problem
     
  10. Apr 16, 2022 at 5:02 PM
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    Now your problems are established
     
  11. Apr 16, 2022 at 5:06 PM
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    Is there a way to fix the current situation and keep what I have or do I have no choice but to take the puck off?
     
  12. Apr 16, 2022 at 6:08 PM
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    Sounds like you have the wrong coil overs from what people are saying which is causing your issue. If you’re unable to return them and get the right ones, the cheapest solution may be to remove the puck. More expensive solutions are new UCAs with more clearance or a different coil or maybe even the shock. Hard to say myself exactly. I’ll leave that to more experienced members here to answer that.
     
  13. Apr 16, 2022 at 6:19 PM
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    If you’re not inclined on fixing it yourself, talk to your mechanic and tell him to fix the improper angle on your spindle. It’s bent or broken... or not mounted correctly. IDK but that is INDEED your problem. Show him the pictures I sent you.

    You DON’T need new UCA’s. It’s not needed.

    Now, what you need to do now is figure out whether or not you want your 4 inch leveling kit on. Listen to me, without a proper lift kit, that 4 inch leveling kit of yours is going to wear down your suspension parts prematurely. I’m not telling you to take it off, you can still run with it on IDC.

    Just fix your spindle. I can’t tell you what has happened to it because I’m not there.



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  14. Apr 16, 2022 at 6:21 PM
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    Im staying as far as I can from this lift conversation but I can tell you instantly that whoever remounted your brake line to the spindle used the wrong hole. Where is your speed sensor wiring now mounted?
     
  15. Apr 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM
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    Who, me?
     
  16. Apr 16, 2022 at 6:25 PM
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    Nah, OP. If you look at your pic, the lower hole is oblong. That hole is for the clip for the wheel speed sensor. The top hole is round and made for that 12mm bolt that holds the brake line.
     
  17. Apr 16, 2022 at 8:18 PM
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    Uh yeah @Bluetoyotaguy your spindle is completely jacked up as beefnbread noticed. You need to quit driving that thing before the spindle snaps in half or something. Tow that to your "mechanic" and get your situation sorted out. Buy some bilsteins with the right coil on them (after a new spindle) and be done with this mess. Then you can see if you'd benefit from new UCA's.
     
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  18. Apr 16, 2022 at 10:30 PM
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    A few things

    1) The shop letting you drive away with that one threw away any confidence in them. That's a sloppy job, I've seen first time diy guys do better frequently.

    2) Ditch the puck. I still think those coilovers look weird but that puck is too big. The ratio isn't 1:2 as mentioned before, its pretty close to 1:1.6 on these trucks. So a 1" puck will give 1.6" of lift, a 2" puck will give 3.2", and so on. If the puck is physically 2.25" tall that explains a lot.

    3) I'm not sure why you keep asking about upper arms. You need to stop thinking about arms. Get your truck drivable first. That shop needs to pay for your truck to be towed assessed, and hopefully fixed.

    4) I'm not 100% sure that the spindle is bent. It could be now, from driving on it. You've put in the ballpark of 2500lbs on them by driving this way. Your dust cover is looking pretty fawked, not sure how that would happen but without knowing the history of your truck its hard to say.

    5) Stop driving this truck. It isn't safe and you'll cause further damage to it. The shop might even say kick rocks if your spindles are bent, they installed parts you requested and thats what happened. I know you're young, this is a hard lesson. Learn before you mod, when you mod make absolute sure what you've done is done right before you drive.
     
  19. Apr 17, 2022 at 1:02 PM
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    Why is this issue so hard to believe for everyone? I had the same issue on the truck I just bought and I removed the Rough Country spacers. There are tons of posts on the internet about the same issue. When you use the pucks it changes the clocking of the springs and causes them to bind with the ball joint.

    Remove the pucks and either drive stock like I am or spend money to get an actual decent lift.
     
  20. Apr 17, 2022 at 2:00 PM
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    True, yeah most coilovers are designed to go a certain direction. You’ll see on some coils that they are a little caved in on one side. Also, not all pulks change the clocking of the coil. In this case, OP’s pulk does turn it 1/6 of the way.

    My argument is that there are so many people using spacers and not encountering this problem. It will make it more prone to worse geometry, for sure, but in my experience with pulks is that they are fine. I ran a 3 inch pulk and things were fine. Never came close to hitting my springs.

    Op’s case is different though. He hasn’t an idea of what was installed on his truck. There’s obvious a lot that needs to be figured out before you pin it on pulks.

    Yes, it will be better if the pulk is removed, but OP wants his lift, so we gotta help him with that. It can’t be that OP can’t get the lift he wants because people are saying that pulks automatically cause this ball joint/coil binding.

    OP just has a combination of problems is all. :(
     
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  21. Apr 17, 2022 at 2:29 PM
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    Also rough country doesn’t make a leveling pulk that achieves 4 inches of lift. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever seen any. Only ones that give 3 inches of lift. So there’s no way he’s getting all of that 4.5-5 inches of lift from the pulk. Goofy coilovers or something.
     
  22. Apr 19, 2022 at 7:56 PM
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    Updates?

     
  23. Apr 19, 2022 at 10:34 PM
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    It isn't. We all know spacers do weird things. They throw the carefully engineered suspension geometry out the window. Its the most primitive method you can use to gain lift. On the other hand, there are tons of people running spacers without a problem.

    The real trouble is that the OPs problems are being compounded. His coilovers themselves seem strange. Adding to that, he has been driving with his spindles pinned under his coils, he may have damaged his spindles in doing so. The upper end of these spindles is a weak point. I can't imagine how terrible that must ride.

    In addition to that, the OP tried a lift coilover recently and those did the what sounds like the same thing to his truck. Its really hard to know how fawked his truck is from this attempt or the prior attempt.

    Where I agree with you is to toss those hockey pucks in the trash. The question is, where will that leave his truck? What will be revealed at that point?
     
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