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Seeking a shop that can properly balance wheels (East Valley)

Discussion in 'Arizona' started by eRockAZ, May 6, 2022.

  1. May 6, 2022 at 7:44 AM
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    Howdy. On my 2018 Sport I'm running 35x12.5x20 and have occasional wheel shake. It's random. Sometimes nothing, sometimes big time shake. Happens at various speeds. Sometimes while braking, or not. I don't feel it's a danger... just growing weary of it.
    Taken it to a few places (including Discount) and no luck.
    I'd like to find a place that does legit, bonafide balancing of wheels that size. It can't be a trivial thing. There's tons of vehicles out there running larger size wheels. BTW, I'm on pavement pretty much full time, haven't been offroad with these yet.
    - Tired of wasting time on shops that can't do it
    - Tired of hearing "oh, it's just a Big Wheel thing, gEt uSeD tO iT"
    - Tired of finding these ⬇️ in my driveway :eek2: Appreciate any advice/leads!

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  2. May 6, 2022 at 7:56 AM
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    Maybe Robert's Tire on SE of Power and Warner? They do trucks and stuff- They've done my trailer and my 4runner before for wheel/tire work.

    Are the wheels hubcentric? or LUGcentric?
     
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  3. May 6, 2022 at 10:01 AM
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    valid questions above on wheels, lug vs hub centric. Tundras are hub centric, there are some cones/disks that you can get for some lug centric wheels to address that. Place you purchased wheels/tires should be able to assist there.

    Also, balance aside, especially since it comes and goes, could be to due flat spotting. That is pretty common with larger LT tires. Goes away with some miles once the tires heat up but it will definitely induce the shimmy. If you have the shakes the first 10/20 min driving, then it smooths out, this could be a contributor.

    If you are finding wheel weights in the driveway that is a big part of your problem too, falling off, they tire is no longer balanced. Happen to have 17 inch wheels? If so placement of the weights is critical because there is such tight clearance with the caliper and wheel on 17s.

    What air pressure are you running, too low, to high can give the shimmies. No idea why, but ive experience that myself. In general, Tundras are finicky when it comes to wheel balance and tire air pressure, more so than any other vehicle I have owned.
     
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    Salem Boys, Warner & Hardy in Tempe. Ask for Alan Salem and tell him what you need done. He's a good source for truck wheel & tire options and issues. I can get the phone number later if needed.
     
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    They're the Toyota 20" TSS... I believe they are hubcentric.

    Yeah, Roberts Tire was the latest place I tried...
     
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    Thanks! I'll look them up :thumbsup:
     
  7. May 6, 2022 at 3:13 PM
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    Warm PSI readings (just off the freeway, it's 100f out) are 44/43/43/43. Don't remember the cold PSI, will have to wait until later for that, hehe.

    These are hub centric 20" TSS rims... but yeah, I've heard about tight squeeze on 17s.

     
  8. May 7, 2022 at 8:06 AM
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    Gotcha, cold pressure many run for 35s on a Tundra are generally around 35 psi. This is a great tool for getting air pressure close to optimal when changing from stock tires to larger or different load ratings
     
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    Hey, new to forum. I recently purchased a 2017 SR5 TSS Double Cab with only 26k miles. Super clean and well taken care of. I've heard of a balancing issue on the TSS wheels. When I 1st got it I noticed a shake at about 80 MPH. Had them looked into and balanced on a top of the line Road Force Balancing machine and now the shake is sometimes at around 65 mph to 75 MPH and still a little just under 80. Not sure the issue but when they went back on the machine they all showing zero. Tires are almost new. Wondering If I need to true the tires. My 2006 TSS had Chrome 20's and I had no issues. Any thoughts?
     
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    I just had my factory 20"s removed and sold them on facebook. When I was looking at them, there were missing weights on each wheel- I wasn't running anything oversize tire wise either.

    I had my truck worked on at G&M Motorsports near Pecos and Sossaman, not far from Robert's Tire.
     
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    Welcome! Well, that's a bit of a bummer, the next thing I was gonna try was a road force balancing shop. In the meantime, I did do a tire rotation over the weekend, and that reduced the shaking significantly (both fronts are sent straight back to the rear, and the rears get crossed up to the front) So to me, that's more evidence of a wheel/tire balance issue, and not something more important (brakes, suspension, alignment, etc etc)

     
  12. Oct 17, 2023 at 8:30 PM
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    Ever find a good shop? I’m on Germann between higley and power and I’ve been chasing a similar issue as were you. I’ve tried Big-O and Discount. I was thinking of going to either the dealer or looking for a 4x4 shop near me.
    TYIA
     
  13. Oct 18, 2023 at 4:37 AM
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    I got tired of balancing weights coming off so I finally went with glass balance beads. Automatically balances itself, will last the life of the tire, and you’ll never have to worry about accidentally knocking off the weights.

    The glass beads are better than the plastic and ceramic versions out there IMO. Plastic air soft size pellets are too light and would need a shit ton of them. The ceramic ones are small and can sometimes get caught in your valve stem when airing down, causing a slow leak, I’ve had this happen to me.

    Here’s the one I got. Just get the right amount for your size tire. You can go to a shop and they'll put in for you. They’ll pop the bead and throw in the package. Shop shouldn’t charge you more than $25/tire.

    https://a.co/d/biD5fu6
     
  14. Oct 18, 2023 at 7:05 AM
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    mind if I ask what wheel/tire you’re running? Did this eliminate all vibrations for you? Also will all shops install this? Or would you recommend a specific one?
    TYIA
     
  15. Oct 18, 2023 at 7:08 AM
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    I’m running 40s on 17s, which are very hard to balance.

    Any shop will do it. $25 is $25
     
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    Haha word. That’s a big ratio! Here I am complaining about 33’s on 17’s. no vibes afterwards though?
     
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    Butter!
     
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    My man.. appreciate it!
     
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    So get this - I had Toyota do Front Brakes service - no more vibration and wheel shake, what a difference. One of the wheels is still unbalanced - once in a while, I feel it, depending on its position after rotating the tires - but it's very minor. I never did make it to a shop... was planning to go to the mentioned Salem Boys, Warner & Hardy in Tempe... BUT, since I'm about to buy new tires, I've just skipped that for now.
    ETA: I'm replacing the tires b/c they are nearly worn out, not b/c of balance issues, just to clarify :thumbsup:
     
  20. Oct 18, 2023 at 8:20 AM
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    That's what I thought, too. So I had the Tundra into Toyota Service for something unrelated - they recommended adding the Front Brake service - I went ahead and approved it. They did not replace the rotors, so, they couldn't have been overly warped? I don't know the exact details, but, I was just happy the shakes and shimmies were gone - it made all the difference - I was finally off the "wheel balancing treadmill", so to speak.

    Of course, this should be taken anecdotally; experiences can vary. I'm definitely not trying to convince anyone to go throw more money at the stealership... just reporting my experience.
     
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