Daily drive long travel? With overland setup, top-heavy?

Anyone running long trave suspension (with NO SWAY BAR) and have an overland setup including racks, RTT, and all that junk?

How is maneuverability on the freeway? Sharp turns? Swerving, avoiding things on the road at high speeds?

I realize it's possible to run a custom sway bar system, but I'm pretty sure most don't run one on their long travel anyway. In order to run a swaybar, you'd need a bunch of things like a custom swaybar, custom LCA brackets, and a quick disconnect would be nice too . . .

Anyway, back to my original question.
Do you do it? Would/do you daily drive it? Is it safe/predictable?

 

I did it on a Tacoma for years.
Was perfectly fine. If that helps…
3.5 LT up front- spring under in rear

 

how heavy/overlandy was it?

Any spring length/stiffness swaps for your coilovers?

 

Went with 700lbs springs
Bumper, full skids.
Ran a rack and RTT off and on.

 

700 lb. springs of the same length, right?

Also, how'd you make that custom snorkel? have any pics?

 

Honestly I don’t know how much they differ from stock length they are 2.5 x 8 short bodies with +2 rod ends, kinda made for the camburg kit up front.
I don’t have pics but it’s just 4” aluminum tubing and aircraft tubing, clocked and fitted with elbows.
All of the shelf stuff some from here.
https://www.siliconeintakes.com/?osCsid=h2l64ac2pnroo2ui6n2v5nhfj6

 

bump?

 

You could always run a nice mid travel setup with custom leafs for whatever weight you have in the back. Would probably work great unless you really need the extra travel.

 

This is a good idea, I had the OME for awhile and really liked it. Leafs could handle the extra weight

 

Again this is good.
Long travel ain’t all it’s cracked up to be.
Lots of extra maintenance. Read this.
Second post mostly
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/considering-long-travel-read-here-first.180457/

 

Very interesting

 

The rear would be mid travel. I forgot to add that, whoopsies

I'm more concerned about the front and it not having a sway bar

 

Long travel up front only is NOT worth it. The rear is what actually makes it work well.
Take off the sway bar and drive around a little, I’m betting you wont put it back on. I really like no sway bar up front.

 

What suspension are you looking at and what’s your plans with it?

 

Daily driving an LT truck is not a problem, just eats more gas 'cause it's even less aerodynamic. I'm not a fan of weight up high on any type of suspension but with LT at least you're wider which would put your CG lower than the same setup on a mid travel.
There are several options for "under the bed" LT if cutting through the bed is what's holding you back from going true LT.
The only real drawback, IMO, to LT is negotiating tight trails which is seldom an insurmountable problem. Well, and the initial expense. There's no reason in my mind why LT should require more maintenance other than driving it harder which accelerates the maintenance schedule.

 

To be honest, I don't even fully know what "mid travel rear" means lmao
Specifically, I'm interested in a rear shock mount relocation--not the type where you cut through the bed and switch the coilovers, etc. I just assumed since it's not true long travel, it's called mid travel (?)


^^^Tacoma shock relocation for reference

Suspension-wise, I'm still in the thinky process. Gravitating towards ADS or FOX . . . but not set in stone

 

Here's one, kinda spendy way of doing it. .https://www.lsksuspension.com/products/07-tundra-cantilever-kit
Here's another. https://camburg.com/shop/suspension...a-tundra-07-performance-rear-shock-mount-kit/

But, for off road performance you're gonna want bypasses and not the smooth bodies pictured above on the Taco. Even a good MT setup utilizes bypasses.
The differences, number are approximate and vary:
Stock = 10" of travel. Mid = 12-13" LT = 15-20"

 

I've considered cantilever too. So many flavors of suspension haha
And yes, triple external bypasses are the stuff, I'll definitely be utilizing those

 

I drove a Tacoma with a +6" over kit up front and a SUA rear set up for almost 2 years. it was an absolute blast. I didnt have a whole lot of weight up high but i sure could whip the truck around and never had a worry about tipping over. The added track width helps a lot with stability.

The only issue i came up with were steering racks, wheel bearings, and a new third member... i blew through all those things because of the bigger tires equaling more stress on all of the mentioned components.

Are your plans more to hit slower trails or go out in the desert and do higher speed stuff?

 

I'll have certainly quite some weight
I plan for semi-fast desert bombing--sand dunes and such--but also a good mix of some slower crawling. I'm sure the longer travel will help with traction in those scenarios too

 

If youre not driving it like a race truck (which it isnt anyways) i think youll be okay with the weight up high. the only thing i would be careful is when you go to the sand dunes. Dont get stuck sideways on the face of a dune. it can get real sketchy real quick.

Have you considered going with just a coilover and uniball UCA up front and SUA on the rear? I had that set up before and it was pretty fun.

 

Oh yeah, I'm sure that can get sketchy really quickly

I'll look into a SUA setup. How does it compare to a shock relocation?

 

Sooo..

Does a rear shock relocation (not going through the bed) count as long travel? Is there, like, a dictionary definition?

 

Maybe @Vizsla can answer? He's run this, still may be running it.

 

I had a LT 4Runner I built and dailied for a few years with no sway bars, I kept it pretty low but the body roll wasn't that bad.



I also have a friend who's LT I also built and has the full overland setup with the huge bumpers and spare tire way up in the air and RTT and water and every other god awful "I want to destroy my handling" item, no sway bars, pretty tall, and the body roll is pretty nasty on it and he can 3 wheel in a parking lot easy (granted lots of LT trucks can do that). I wouldn't call it dangerous on the highway, just you're reducing your handling performance so need to drive accordingly.





Lots of things have shitty handling and can't maneuver fast, if you're smart it's not a big deal and something to live with. I doubt in a tundra it's that bad since they weigh a ton inherently so you're not moving the CG up very much. Whether the performance trade of is worth it is your call, if you plan to just put around at 40mph on dirt roads and pot holes and shit, LT is kind of a waste imo. Like the guys with jeeps with bypasses doing 3mph, having the goods and not using it ends up just being a detriment.

 

My old man has a full build and no sway bars etc. It handles great with no issues. Comes down to valving/springs and other factors. He drives it hard at times.It does take some getting used to.

 

Ohhh, sweet shit!

 

I daily drove my mid-travel Tacoma before I had a Tundra almost 30k miles a year no problem. Spring rates and valving go a long with with the handling of the truck. You go through tires faster with all the highway miles.

What hurts is when some kid not paying attention hits you head on and totals your rig that you put all this time and money into. I had about 10 grand into mine and who knows how many hours that I'll never get back after this happened to me. I bet it would really hurt to total out a built long travel setup - more time spent on the road means more chance of getting hit. It for sure made me rethink how much work I wanted to put into a truck that spent 99% on the road at the mercy of others.

 

Agreed in full on this. I daily my LT tundra. Its not terrible, but also not practical with the rocket in gas prices. I have a ton of work, money, and thought behind my rig. I would be devastated if somebody smashed into it. The LT alone isn't a cheap suspension.

 

Mine is daily driven. No issues at all, love driving it I’m not overland though lol