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EV Concept Truck

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by throughitalldude, Dec 14, 2021.

  1. Feb 1, 2022 at 6:12 PM
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    I highly recommend this video. When comparing a BEV to an ICE in order to compare apples to apples you'd have to use similar vehicles. When it comes to BEVs its all about the efficiency of the electric motor.

    https://youtu.be/7bIBs8GuUYY

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    I like your real world perspective on that. I agree that if all you do is consumer charging etc that it will be waaaay more expensive. I can tell you my buddy charges his model three at home and also has a honda civic. His partner drives probably about 200 miles a day most days and he says he is saving quite a bit the weeks when his partner drives the tesla (I cannot quantify quite a bit). They have some kinda watt hour meter or something for the charger to figure out what they are putting in the thing. Also their partner also gets paid mileage for the distance traveled, so that calculates into it. He is a super numbers nerd so I don't doubt his research.

    I like the idea of some sort of an even playing field calculation for MPG @ a certain cost vs. KWH per Mile at a certain cost and see where that really flushes out. Efficiencies, MPG's, electricity costs all have such a big factor...


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  4. Feb 3, 2022 at 3:05 PM
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    Yeah, if you charge at home... or free at your workplace... you are golden. But on the road you are gouged. All the commercial offerings are ripoffs, IMO. And the other thing is that you can't simply divide a proposed road trip by an EV's range and say that you have 3 stops or whatever. First, charging really gets slow over 80% so that is a typical fill point unless you have another hour or 2 to kill. Then you can't even use all of that depending on where chargers can be found and weather (cold, wind) conditions, grades, etc. I have watched a couple of Mach E reviews and road trip reviews by real enthusiasts and frankly it looked painful. One 1000 mile trip the driver in the AWD Mach E with 255 mile advertised range stopped about 7 times, about 45 minutes each stop. He was paying the EA discount rate that was still 3 times the cost of home charging. I could have done that trip in my Tacoma in 2 stops of 5 minutes each for ~ the same $ in fuel that he paid and skipped the night in the hotel. All this is gonna make EV adoption really tough.

     
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    WTF?

    TFL Studios whined for months to get this truck, had it for a week and this is the range while towing test they planned to complete?

    An R1T can tow up to 11,000 lbs. They towed a 2000 lb teardop.
    They either chose a tiny trailer relative to the maximum towing capacity (11,000 lbs), or were forced to tow a tiny trailer by Rivian, or went for the least expensive option because Colorado Teardrop gave them a loaner or paid them to use their trailer.
    It would have been way more helpful to have least towed with 50% of the rated towing capacity.
    What was the point in demonstrating that the Tundra would be able to travel farther than the R1T while towing? Even an idiot would've known this in advance. The real question was how to the range reductions for each vehicle compare? What is the comparable MPG?
    Did the R1T's range reduce by 50%?
    Did the Tundra's reduce by less?
    What was the exact distance travelled by each vehicle?
    What was the exact time so we can calculate the average speed?
    What was the final MPG for the Tundra?
    What was the comparable cost for the trip in each vehicle using Electrify America's rates and the current gas prices in Colorado?
    I know Andre put in a long day completing this test, but what the heck TFL?


    https://youtu.be/KuW8P4uvKoI
     
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