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V6 3.5L TT 10 speed Xmisson

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by DMTJAGER, Jan 1, 2022.

  1. Jan 5, 2022 at 5:50 AM
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    ssls6

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    The oil burning started when they moved from an iron cylinder liner to a spray ceramic liner. I don't know if they just got better at it or changed back.
     
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  2. Jan 5, 2022 at 7:15 AM
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    Ever since I bought one. In February when my 22 Tundra is delivered I'll be back on your side.
     
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  3. Jan 5, 2022 at 8:00 AM
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    Not sure when it started, but there's definitely some issues with it between 2018-2020.

    http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/TSB/EU/ (nhtsa.gov)
     
  4. Jan 5, 2022 at 8:56 AM
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  5. Jan 5, 2022 at 9:10 AM
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    Shiiit I wish I could find an on the lot raptor
     
  6. Jan 5, 2022 at 11:14 AM
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    ZappBrannigan The mind is willing but the flesh is weak

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  7. Jan 5, 2022 at 11:20 AM
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    Yes I do think turbos can last >225-250k. The F150 Ecoboost turbos aren't generally considered a typical point of failure and we see a lot of them hitting >300k. One guy on the F150 forum had 400k on his 2011 Ecoboost and the only thing he had replaced was the throttle body.

    Feed them good oil at reasonable OCI's and they will absolutely last.

    But even if it did last "only" 225k. Is that a huge deal? At least on the Ecoboost trucks the turbos can be swapped in a few hours and they are ~$500 a piece. Its not like your paying $2000 to replace a turbo.

    it would take most people >50 years to get to a million miles. Thats why I always laugh when that is thrown around.

    The Legacy GT and Subaru's in general had mediocre turbos. I had a 2007 Legacy GT as well. One of the issue the subies had was the oil filter screen in the turbo oil line would clog and cause the oil to starve which was what resulted in many of their issues.

    They hold up pretty good. Once in a while you hear of a failure but its certainly not common.

    CAFE is one reason, but so is performance. Being able to put the engine at the exact RPM you want is ideal for towing, among other things.

    It's probably the main reason the 2020 Silverado 5.3L seemed to outpull the 2021 Tundra on the Ike Gauntlet last year. The Chevy has less peak power and torque but it was able to use it better with the extra 4 gears allowing it to be near the peak power all the time. The Tundra was hoping back and forth between ~3500 rpm and ~5500 rpm since the gear jumps were too big. I have the same exact issue with my Lexus GX towing. Ill get stuck at like 3800 rpm climbing a hill because downshifting would send it past redline. If I had a 10 speed in my GX i could run at 4500 or 5000 or 5500 with all the extra ratios and pull the hills more effectively.

    If you go watch some Youtube videos of tuned A10 mustangs or F150's their RPM rpm drop between shifts is super small and they shift insanely fast. It sounds like a sequential transmission from a rally car or something.
     
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  8. Jan 5, 2022 at 11:58 AM
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    The 3.5 did not have issues with scoring cylinder walls. The phasers were bad in the early 2nd gen motors from 2017-2018. They had a new design in 2019 trucks from the factory and any previous trucks that had issues were replaced under warranty. BTW, ford outsourced the phaser design to BorgWarner. It was not a Ford thing.

    The 2018-2019 5.0's were consuming oil past the piston rings. Apparently their fix was a change to the tune to reduce manifold vacuum at idle i believe. I dont really think the 5.0 Mustangs had issues even though the two motors are identical.

    I've heard of some people claim their 10 speeds stunk but its not universal. A lot of people also love them. I have had a few 10 speed F150's as rentals and they were all great. The 2.7L I had could throw down mid-20's on the freeway and was very quick.

    Ford uses integrated manifolds in the 2.7L, 3.0L and 2.3L Ecoboosts. The 3.5L is the only one that does not and I believe that is partly to due with the fact that its roughly based on the 3.7L Cyclone motor. In fact, I have heard of a few people using the 2011-2016 F150 Ecoboost manifolds to turbocharge their 3.7L Mustangs using Ecoboost turbos. The 2017+ 3.5L has completely revised manifolds.

    Honestly, the best Ecoboosts are the 2.7L and 3.0L Nano motors. They are just built from the ground up to be stout.
     
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  9. Jan 5, 2022 at 1:07 PM
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    It tells me I have the best chance of not having any issues for an extremely long time if I just maintain my truck. I’m surprised at the amount of people on this forum who buy a new vehicle every year or every two years. That’s not me at all. I just want to maintain my Tundra so it will last forever. I don’t want to buy another truck for at least 10 years. And yeah, I probably won’t drive a million miles, but I put ~20k miles/yr on it. I will maintain it the way those guys do who got 1M, 700k, 500k miles and still going.
     
  10. Jan 5, 2022 at 2:01 PM
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    Here's the current test bed for the V35A FTS engine. 2022 Dakar Hilux T1+ class.... it's running right now.
    IMG_4586.jpg
     
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    Do we know there are not 1,000,000 mile F150's, Silverados or Rams? I know some Cummins Rams have miles that high and I am sure there are some Ford PSD's and Duramax's too, but most people who buy gassers simply don't drive that far.

    I've honestly never bothered to look because I just don't care.
     
  12. Jan 5, 2022 at 3:10 PM
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    Too bad MoFo pretty much ran over a dude. Should lose his sponsorship and get DQd. Riders ALWAYS have right of way over ANYTHING with 4 wheels. Dickbag move. Just because De Villiers is someone, all he got away with was a penalty. Was that someone else, someone that didn't have Toyota behind them, someone without history and pedigree, insta-DQ and permaban.

    Sounds like he also ran over another rider's bike on Monday. The rider had gone down and he ran over the bike.
     
  13. Jan 5, 2022 at 8:13 PM
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    Yeah lots of diesels get into that territory. But I don’t want to have to buy (or maintain) an HD diesel work truck to get the kind of extended service life that Toyota builds into their personal gas engine vehicles.
     
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