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13WL Brake Upgrade

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Eugene406, Apr 11, 2019.

  1. Nov 1, 2021 at 11:15 AM
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  2. Nov 1, 2021 at 11:23 AM
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    I have the same issue with my track car in deciding what pads. I always said manufacturing should sell a pad that's half the thickness to sample try them.
     
  3. Nov 1, 2021 at 11:28 AM
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    F it, going orange for $182 shipped. Hope I got the correct model: BHWL-ED91657
     
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  4. Nov 10, 2021 at 8:27 AM
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    Seems like the WL13 is the caliper to sick with. I remember my 2000 had the WE calipers and warped rotors.

    This lexus wa brake reports are all over the place. Will make notes for if I ever find a fgt.
     
  5. Nov 10, 2021 at 8:37 AM
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    Doing my first few drives with stoptech 13WL and Ebc orange stuff. Thumbs up from me. Very nice. Thanks everyone for the advice and guidance.
     
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  6. Nov 11, 2021 at 2:16 PM
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    Nice! Any difference in pedal feel from 13We to 13WL?
     
  7. Nov 11, 2021 at 7:13 PM
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    I mean, the suspension is 20 year old crap right now but steering and brakes are tight as F. Fully satisfied on those fronts.
     
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  8. Oct 25, 2023 at 2:41 PM
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    Can you explain what "trim the dust shield" means? Is it to cut down its diameter or extent? And why?... because it impacts the caliper?
     
  9. Oct 25, 2023 at 4:05 PM
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    Think about a pie. You gotta take a slice out of the pie, where it would otherwise smack into the caliper.
     
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  10. Oct 25, 2023 at 8:40 PM
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    Thanks.... To be a pest... Since I don't have the tools, I have to find a mechanic or shop to do that -? How'd you do it? And how come no one else mentioned this?
     
  11. Oct 25, 2023 at 9:00 PM
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    It’s thin gauge metal. You can trim it with any metal cutting tool. A grinder, cutoff wheel, heavy duty snips, vibrating multi-tool etc. Take the old caliper off. Take the old rotor off. Put the new rotor on, mock the new caliper up. You’ll see where the shield makes contact with the new caliper (it’s slightly larger). Mark the shield cut line with the caliper mocked up. Remove the caliper and trim the shield with any of the above mentioned methods. Re-fit the caliper. Trim additional as necessary.
     
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  12. Oct 25, 2023 at 9:02 PM
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    Here's the thread where I did mine. I used a grinder, but tin snips would work too.

    https://www.tundras.com/threads/front-brake-job.41227/
     
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  13. Oct 26, 2023 at 6:48 AM
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    It's such a small, insignificant detail that should be expected when doing an unintended upgrade like this.

    But now you mention it, I'm wondering if the backing plate from a later-year model ('03+?) isn't just a bolt-on affair, for those who want a true bolt-on experience.
     
  14. Oct 26, 2023 at 7:18 AM
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    I don't see why not. They didn't change the spindles till they did the LBJ upgrade in 05-06 so they should fit.
     
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    Yeah, but if a mod doesn't involve welding, cutting, grinding, or fabbing of some kind, is it really a mod? Maybe, but what a boring world it would be.... Guess if you're a rust belt resident the backing plates may need a refresh anyway.
     
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  16. Oct 26, 2023 at 8:28 AM
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    That was my initial thought. Leaving open steel behind, you're bound to rust anyway unless in a low-humidity, low-water, no-corrosion area. And anyone rust belt may need it already, some of the ppl I see from the rust belt have dust shields that look like a piece of paper left in an attic full of silverfish.

    But "mod" drawn out is "modification", and you are technically modifying the braking system ... In an OEM+ kinda way.
     
  17. Oct 26, 2023 at 8:38 AM
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    Cut lines on mine. Not perfect, doesn’t really have to be.

    IMG_6112.jpg IMG_6111.jpg
     
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    I have an 04, and the backing plate is indeed bolt on...AFTER you press out the hub! 13WL is the stock caliper for 04.
     
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    Phm brought up the fact that the pad contact patch is the same size at best, and the chamfer on the wl pads means the contact patch is smaller for ?half? The life of the pad.

    IMG_4834.png
     
  20. Oct 26, 2023 at 9:11 AM
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    I was thinking it needed to be pressed out. Pics verify:

    20200208_180111.jpg
     
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    I know about this...

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  22. Oct 26, 2023 at 10:34 AM
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    I had none of those tools so I "trimmed" mine with a pair of pliers by bending it back and forth repeatedly until it broke off. Looks like shit but it worked.
     
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    Damn G, I have an extra corded Dremel rotary I found in a drawer at work a couple years back if you need something to cut small ass stuff like that :D
     
  24. Oct 26, 2023 at 10:47 AM
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    Oh I've since improved my tool arsenal but thanks for the offer.
     
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    Did mine the other day with a hack saw. Which makes it a hack job. And me a hack, I suppose. Truck stops though, waiting for the brakes to bed before I render a final opinion. I like the red powerstop calipers though, funny how new brakes make the truck faster..
     
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    Thanks for that!
     

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