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Oil change gone wrong… Drain bolt spun on

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by newemi, Oct 10, 2021.

  1. Oct 12, 2021 at 6:12 AM
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    2mchfun

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    FWIW, oil vac, no need to ever mess with drain plug or valve. :thumbsup:
     
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  2. Oct 12, 2021 at 6:47 AM
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  3. Oct 12, 2021 at 7:10 AM
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    Randy Morton Life takes its toll, please have exact change.

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    How do you think the quick oil change places remove and replace the drain plug? Impact out, then impact back in. Get the plug out, drain most of the oil, put the plug back in, fill it with whatever oil like swill was on sale that month, get your money, rinse, lather, and repeat. If the drain plug is stripped or cross-threaded, it must have been damaged by the previous oil change company, they couldn't have made that mistake. You don't think that 10 minute oil changes are being done by highly trained professional oil technicians, did you?
     
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  4. Oct 12, 2021 at 7:25 AM
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    My brother ran a quick lube center for years. They never used air ratchets. He still had to replace oil pans and engines from time to time due to overtorquing.

    I also worked for Toyota in the maintenance shop. They never used air tools either.

    Guess things have changed?
     
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  5. Oct 12, 2021 at 7:58 AM
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    As in many things, 90% of the quick oil change shops ruin the reputation of the other 10%. Your brother ran a good shop. Those are hard to find. It doesn't surprise me that Toyota doesn't use impact wrenches on the oil plugs, they don't want angry customers. Customers do get a bit miffed when they hear that the oil pan has to be replaced. They get down right cranky when their car starts leaking oil from a cross threaded plug, and they tend to get stomping mad when the drain plug falls out and the lack of oil damages the engine. All in all, if I have to rely on quick change oil shops, I'll just roll it into the ditch and get it over with.
     
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    It’s a shame if this is how customers are treated.
     
  7. Oct 12, 2021 at 9:11 AM
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    BTBAKER DIFFERENT NAME. SAME JUNK.

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    I haven’t seen Toyota use impacts in the few times I’ve actually used them but I definitely haven’t seen them use a torque wrench either.
     
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    There’s a little fear mongering going on here, it is NOT common practice for any company to use an impact on the oil drain plug, jiffy lube or a dealership, that’s just a dumb rumor to spread.
     
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    Impact or not, I’ve had my run ins with poor performing techs

    Had to have our 4runner skid plate replaced after a tech either cross threaded or over torqued multiple bolts.

    then later, same vehicle the tech over tightened the canister filter, to the point that I broke my filter wrench trying to remove it.
     
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  11. Oct 12, 2021 at 9:34 AM
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    Agreed.
    One more reason for me. I've never stripped an oil drain plug but it always occurs to me everytime I tighten one down that it's going to start turning easily and my stomach will turn. I've mentioned before, first thing I do to a new vehicle I get, never had a problem, appreciate it every time I use it. Japanese quality.
    Fumoto Tips:
    Put a light smear of high temp sealant on the threads along with the blue washer
    Paint pen a line marker when you're done tightening, a quick look over the years will tell you it's never moved.

     
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  12. Oct 12, 2021 at 9:54 AM
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    Are you sure it's a dumb rumor and not an inconvenient truth? I guess it depends on which side of the impact wrench you're on.
     
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    While I share your pessimism with letting others do my oil changes because most of the time those that are doing it are at the bottom of the totem pole in the knowledge and skill dept, thinking that everyone uses impacts to loosen and tighten drain plugs is a serious stretch!
     
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  14. Oct 12, 2021 at 11:03 AM
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    Weird because on the Fumoto site they only show B27's and a B1 as compatible with the 5.7. Where did you find the B28?

    Just looking for some reason why people are using it.

    Personally I went with the ValvoMax but had a Fumoto on my 4.7 without any issues.
     
  15. Oct 12, 2021 at 11:34 AM
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    Same here on the oil filter cover after last free change. I had to use a 2' cheater bar and buy a new filter wrench. My neighbor had the hold my legs. I am guessing 130 ft lbs based on past experience doing front end work. I doubt they used a cheater bar to tighten it. Manager says the techs all have torque wrenches. I said you better teach them how to use them.
     
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    Rumor? I personally witnessed it. Lol.
     
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