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At a crossroads with this truck. Already

Discussion in '2nd Gen Tundras (2007-2013)' started by RustyVT, Jun 24, 2021.

  1. Jun 24, 2021 at 9:29 PM
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    RustyVT

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    Hey all. After 2 years away and getting spooked by the timing chain tensioners on my '15 with the 5.7, I REALLY wanted to give Tundras another shot. I just bought this one yesterday, 2007 4.7 just barely over 140k miles. Florida truck for most of its life, cleaner than 99% of trucks here in VT with a dictionary of service records.

    Since buying it I've learned I have the dubstep wu wu front end (needle bearing on D side is spent, PO claimed it was the tires. Shockingly, it wasn't) This didn't really bother me all that much because of the ECGS bushing remedy, but still kinda put a dent in my likeness of it right off the bat.

    But on top of that in my one day of ownership so far, it had a "breakdown". I stopped at a rest area because I saw some buddies and wanted to say hi. After chatting for 10 minutes or so I went to start it, and the thing wouldn't run. Cranks, idles for a second, dies. I unhooked the battery for a few seconds, and it ran great again. Got it to my folks house, and it did the same thing again... No codes, no CEL

    Since then I've cleaned the MAF, Throttle body, swapped out the fuel pump relay, and kept the battery disconnected for a full 30 minutes.

    After all that it's been running and starting seemingly fine, it made the 45 minute drive back to my house perfectly, and started great the several times I tried in the driveway.

    I just don't know what to think of the thing. My confidence in reliability fell apart real fast, I haven't even had the thing 1 full day and I've got a pretty bad taste in my mouth.

    What would you all do? It's very tempting to just dump the thing at a dealer and trade it in because apparently the thing is cursed. But it's also a clean SCSB 4x4 with the 4.7.... I'm just very indecisive on what to do with the damn thing

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  2. Jun 24, 2021 at 11:02 PM
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    Give it a chance, its just trying to show you who's the Alpha. :D Seriously though, nice truck, I'd give it some attention and see how it behaves.
     
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  3. Jun 24, 2021 at 11:13 PM
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    Right now, based on the information you provided, it sounds like the “ree-boot” efforts you went through are working. I suggest that you cautiously put the truck into service and see if you have any further problems
     
  4. Jun 24, 2021 at 11:28 PM
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    Does it have a new battery? Do you know if the battery was disconnected recently? It is pretty common if a battery if off for a few hours for Toyota to run funny, die at idle, or die at a stop sign. This happened to me a few times, usually when messing with amps or my stereo.

    I'd say keep it. Thats a nice truck and not terribly common.
     
  5. Jun 25, 2021 at 6:30 AM
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    I've had the same 2 issues with mine. I drove on the dubstep bearing for 82,000 miles before installing the ECGS bushing.

    Your other issue sounds just like my truck as well. It happens a few times a year. I keep my valet key with me & it's never failed to start & run. Next time I shut the truck off, I swap the main black key back in & I'm good. I believe it's a security system issue.
     
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  6. Jun 25, 2021 at 6:39 AM
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    I don't mean to sound like a smart-ass here, but Toyota or not, you bought a 14 year old, high mileage vehicle. The age of it would be the bigger concern for me. Things corrode, dry rot, etc. You should expect occasional problems. That doesn't mean I think you should bail on it though. Just don't stress too much. Your big ticket items are the most reliable things on it.
     
  7. Jun 25, 2021 at 8:44 AM
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    I would hardly call 140k high miles, but it is a 14 year old truck. The needle bearing is not a big deal and it sounds like the truck losing power could have been a fluke, hopefully. The truck is gonna need some love to get it tip top, once thats done it will be solid.
     
  8. Jun 25, 2021 at 8:56 AM
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    e30cabrio

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    Weak batteries cause all sorts of oddness in modern vehicles.
     
  9. Jun 25, 2021 at 9:28 AM
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    They sure do. I'm the warranty manager for a large trucking fleet and I've seen low voltage, bad batteries cause some weird stuff in vehicles.
     
  10. Jun 25, 2021 at 9:37 AM
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    Didn't you guys have a big heat wave go through the NE not too long ago? There was talk on the local news stations today about how high heat can cause battery issues. We're in for a major heat wave here in the Portland OR area starting today.
     
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  11. Jun 25, 2021 at 9:40 AM
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    Not to throw you down about it.. But the truck is 14 years old..Do some service to it that needs to be done for re-assurance.
    140k is not bad mileage at all..
    Keep it man, its paid off..
     
  12. Jun 25, 2021 at 11:49 AM
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    It's absolutely asserted it's dominance that's for damn sure haha
     
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  13. Jun 25, 2021 at 11:51 AM
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    I'll definitely be driving it still, more and more if it proves to be reliable. I'm stuck with it for a while regardless until my new title shows up. Time will tell!
     
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  14. Jun 25, 2021 at 11:54 AM
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    Prior to me owning it I'm not sure if the battery had been disconnected, the clock was right and his station presets were there. But doesn't take much effort to put those back in. My old Tacoma did used to run a little unhappy while it was doing it's relearn after a disconnect though. SC400 as well
     
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  15. Jun 25, 2021 at 11:57 AM
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    Good to know the dubstep bearing isn't an immediate concern, it'll still drive me mad sooner than later though haha. I've seen a handful of people have the same issue and most seem to chalk it up as a fluke. I did see a few people mention the fuel pump ECU / module too. If that's the culprit it would make sense. Have an sc400 that did the exact same thing when that went bad
     
  16. Jun 25, 2021 at 12:01 PM
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    It's definitely a bit of a project, but the market is so insane right now I took what I could get. Bonus for being the chode truck stubby thing, always wanted one. It goes in for paint correction tomorrow. Rotors pads all around, stock replacement tail light, and a new rear bumper coming next week. I'll leave it at that until it proves to be reliable. I'm no stranger to driving old cars, my summer daily is 28 years old. But I am a stranger to breakdowns on day one :|
     
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  17. Jun 25, 2021 at 12:09 PM
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    I'll give that a look, I think the battery is fairly new. But "they don't make em like they used to" and all that. Worth throwing a new one in
     
  18. Jun 25, 2021 at 12:11 PM
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    For our standards it was hot. But for West coast standards it was probably cool out lol. I think we hit low 90s once
     
  19. Jun 25, 2021 at 12:26 PM
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    You had a 5.7 and something about timing chain tensioners made you get a 4.7 with a timing belt that has to be replaced every 100k?
     
  20. Jun 25, 2021 at 1:07 PM
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    The problem is it could be something as simple as gas. I would go only to stations I knew sold lots of gas for a number of tanks. I've got burnt a few times where the car is running fine and all of a sudden it either will not start or starts but dies. I even had it happen while at a light idling. I got it started and the exhaust was slightly black and sooty. I think the gas station was dumping used oil into the tanks to boost profit.

    The wife and I took a trip of about 100 miles and while in a parking lot the truck wouldn't start. Just turned over and nothing. Took the key out and waited a few minutes and then it ran fine. After that happened I got a couple of blank keys and had the local hardware store cut them. I wanted to make sure they would work so I put them in the ignition and turned the engine over but it wouldn't start since I hadn't programed them into the computer yet. No warnings about security, nothing. So I think for some reason when it wouldn't start on that trip the computer didn't recognize the key and removing it was like doing a simple reset.
     
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    90's is uncommonly hot for us but we're maybe in for as much as 110 this weekend which is unheard of. I'm glad my Tundra is in the garage and I'm not planning to go anywhere.
     
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    I would keep the truck. The 4.7 may very well be the greatest V8 Toyota has ever made reliability wise. I’m in the minority here-but I personally like the timing belt system on those motors. Yes, it costs $700-1000 to get it done with quality parts, but it is a motor where the timing system is designed to be maintained at regular intervals (90,000 miles). Once you get it done, you can feel confident that you’ll be good for the next 90k. My sons GX470 has 316k and that 4.7 still runs smooth as butter.

    The vast majority of us with the 5.7 will never have an issue with the chain, but if/when it does happen, it’s a very costly issue to repair, or could grenade the motor if it breaks.
     
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    RCSB's are sexy as hell, and that 4.7 is gold. :thumbsup:
     
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    It costs nothing to go get your battery tested.
     
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    Dude. I want your cab and bed configuration so bad. I look for Tundras every time I'm out driving and I only know of one in the entire KC metro. I'm sure there are more, but they're rare, and super cool. Plus, like others have said, the 4.7L has a great rep for lasting quite literally forever. There have been at least two documented 1 million mile Tundras, both with that engine. 140k is nothing to it. Mine (5.7L) has 136k and I'm really only just getting started building it; I'm sure most of it's life is still ahead of it.

    One of the guys on here has his custom title set to "explore more, worry less." I'd advise you to do just that.
     
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    They were rattling under load and I had metal shavings in the oil, and a belt is a hell of a lot easier to change than a chain
     
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    This is my logic exactly. It may be an unpopular opinion but I'll take a proven engine with a belt all day over a chain. The 5.7 is perfectly good, but I believe I got a lemon
     
  29. Jun 25, 2021 at 7:48 PM
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    Trying to break into that mindset, I have a plan in my head for the thing and it really will look nice all done up. I've cooled down since it did that initial hickup. It was just a matter of having it do it literally on day one.... I'll hold onto it and make it mine
     
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    I’m glad you’re backing off the ledge a bit. Let’s see some more pics of that RCSB!
     
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