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Discussion in 'Home Improvement' started by GODZILLA, May 8, 2021.

  1. May 9, 2021 at 10:06 PM
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    I will try to find the books I have that might be useful for you. I’d be happy to give them to you, as I don’t plan to have any further use for them. I am tired of building and just want to make knives and furniture. Give me a few days. Stuff is still packed in tubs and boxes.
    Great to hear about the stability of your neighborhood. Still, some plants, like tall pines, can greatly reduce winds.
     
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  2. May 9, 2021 at 10:09 PM
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    Most generous, but please don't go out of your way on my account. I hate to inconvenience people and this is all a pipe dream right now.
     
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  3. May 11, 2021 at 4:15 AM
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    Ok, another question that some of you who are more familiar with house drawings and such:

    The garage is listed with square dimensions of 21'5"x21'5", but there are some protrusions on the garage. Which of the two lines below is more likely to be the true 21'5" dimension listed? I ask because if it is line 2, the Tundra would happily fit if parked away from where the stairs intrude. However, if it's line 1 she is only going to fit over there to start with, and with only a foot or two to spare.

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  4. May 11, 2021 at 4:26 AM
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  5. May 11, 2021 at 4:27 AM
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    Yeah. It sounds like it from reading your opening. Also, material costs are out of control now. No end in sight.
     
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  6. May 11, 2021 at 4:50 AM
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    Yes. That's no joke. Right now I couldn't afford this house and regular material cost, and with everything being double or more... Not happening anytime soon. If stars align and I pull a rabbit out of my @$$ I might be able to start the work on the lot in 4-5 years. More likely an 8-10 year thing. Focusing on this and trying to pick details helps motivate me to get things in order and tighten the budget, though, so I am hoping to keep this thread alive.
     
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  7. May 11, 2021 at 4:59 AM
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    First question you have to ask and truthfully answer is this the location you want to pour your heart, sole and money into? Frankly a concern I have is that you build a great house, only to have "double wide" neighbors (obviously zoning allows for it). Location location location!

    Having modified an existing design myself before having a contractor build it, I will add that changes on paper look great, but the reality of some of those changes can look and be pretty weird in reality. I did not process all the details, but speaking from experience things like how close a window is to a corner or a door can really screw up a room, or a sight line across your family room staring right into a bathroom or bedroom, stuff like that. And then adding a foot or two here and there can impact your roof line and overall appearance...and that is not found out until you get plans drawn up (ie spending money). We changed a room dimension by 2-feet on paper and it had a snowball effect that raised our roofline about 3 feet, enough that it just looked stupid. Luckily the plans caught it before be built it so we could change it back. Bottom line there is more to being an architect than drawing on flat paper. And you said building is "years away". Styles change, tastes change, design standards change and materials change, etc. At this time I would just have a basic idea of what you want to build...as simple as 1-level 3-bedroom, 3-bath with sunroom or some such parameters and just leave it at that for now. When it is clear this is going to be a reality, then you can start getting specific.

    When I first saw your plan...my first thought was that sure is a lot of small rooms...and what the heck is that two car garage when there is plenty of land for a 3-car garage? And growing up in MN, I see a huge mosquito hatching factory on that adjacent property, not a pristine picturesque mountain stream, but you already know if that is true.

    Just my early morning 0.02.
     
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  8. May 11, 2021 at 5:25 AM
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    Input is appreciated and noted. The lot is owned outright, so it saves money, and I've lived there for a loooong time. I love the land I'm on.

    There isn't space for a 3 car garage, and I only have one vehicle. There is space to add another shop building in the future, but that's even further out.

    The only neighbor I have just built a nice house north of me. The land south of me cannot be built on because of the stream/water level. They'd sink.

    This is planned to be my forever home, so I'm working to visualize all I can. I agree with lots of your design points. The changes I want don't greatly alter the initial framework. Just what content is in the spaces.

    The garage is the only bump out I would like, BUT I would easily leave it as is and be happy if it's not doable.
     
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  9. May 11, 2021 at 6:29 AM
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    One more thing...no matter how much thought and planning you put into it...once built and living in it, you will say, likely multiple times, "I wish I had....". Some those wishes would have just taken a couple dollars to fulfill. But the sad fact is that at the time there was just not any more budget for it. I recall when building our house, I asked about putting steps in the garage that would go down directly into the basement. It would have required extending the depth of the garage about 3', plus a bit more concrete work (I wanted concrete steps) and another exterior door at the bottom. IIRC the total cost was about $3200 or so (this was early 90's). And the second thing was covering our back deck. Could have gabled the roof out over and screened it in for $1700. Nope to both..just not in the budget. I wish I had.....
     
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  10. May 11, 2021 at 7:28 AM
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    Don’t forget about pre wiring your house for speakers in each room that matters. Basement large enough for a projection screen?:fistbump:
     
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    Speakers, extra conduit, CAT6, camera wiring. All stuff to try and plan for, along with a more robust electrical system than is usually required. All good tips you guys on here have taught me to shoot for. :fistbump:

    No basement, though. They flood where I am, and my knees hate stairs.
     
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    I've had two knee surgeries, I get it. I hate the wooden basement stairs.

    Dont forget a beer robot. I'm sure there is one made out there you can purchase for the house.

    Any room for a detailing bay outside?

    Window selection? (insulation / noise reduction)

    Wiring for fans in each room?
     
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  14. May 11, 2021 at 12:12 PM
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    Here is one nobody has mentioned and what I did when we built our house.

    after framing and before drywall, I anticipated every place where I might be hanging a curtain rod, towel bar, shelf or heavy picture/mirror. I then nailed in some 2x6's between the studs in those locations. And then using one of the those folding wood rulers, I took pictures of all of them with the various measurements so I knew where they were. So come time to hang a curtain..no hunting or hoping for a stud as I knew a solid board would be there. Was more than worth the effort. Also suggest taking a lot of pictures of everything during every phase of construction. Nice to know what is behind the walls, under the floors, etc.
     
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    I just tagged the names I had seen in some of the other home building threads. I didn't see you commenting in those. I also know you've had a lot on your plate.








    How bad was it; building your own?
     
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    I would switch pantry and utility rooms. Nothing better then stripping down goin straight to laundry , Make utility room as big as possible won’t regret it,i. Got dogs? Hot h20 in garage is great.
     
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    I've been lucky enough to avoid surgery, and correct most pain with posture. They still sound terrible though. Grinding and popping, but MRIs showed no damage. Don't know how they make the noises they do and are all clean inside.:notsure:

    I'll likely just wash in the driveway. Maybe a pop up sunshade/carport thing. The lot is narrow, so I can only really build in one direction with this floor plan.

    The goal would be for the best energy savings on these. Interior walls I would love to have insulated for sound, and exterior I want to have sprayed insulation. I'd also like to have solar installed, or at least have the house prewired so it can be readily added later.

    Oh! I forgot about fans. That's a really good idea. My brother has a couple nice fans in his house, and they are one of their favorite features. It's the little things, you know?
     
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    This along with the glued and screwed floors are definitely something to improve living in the home. Towel racks, drapes/curtains, and at least one wall of the garage are things I would love to have set up for easy mounting.
     
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    Speaking of fans, an attic fan/ air exchanger is really nice for cooling the house off and cheap and easy to install before drywall.
     
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    I assume you are meaning that you are stripping down coming from the garage? I'm blessed to have a cushy office job, but it's still something to ponder.

    The laundry/utility room is already fairly good size, isn't it? I am still researching, but I am planning for a tankless water heater, so that will free up space as well.

    I definitely want hot water in and just outside the garage. Not just for dogs, but any other cleaning of outdoor items.

    Good suggestions here. Thank you.
     
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    Good to know.
     
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    That's what I was afraid of. :( Still, workable and a small price to pay for the floor plan I love.

    Thank you for clearing that up for me.
     
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    Yeah. It's insane. Electrical supplies are through the roof too. Not being able to build this for years is looking like a blessing in disguise.
     
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    It wasn't bad, really. But I'd been dealing with builders for a few years and knew exactly how the process of building goes. Just remember, nothing goes as planned.
     
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    Not to necro this thread, but if this is going to be your forever home I will make a few suggestions that might help you achieve what you’re looking for.

    For starters if I were looking to build a house today I wouldn’t be in the market for a stick built home, particularly given lumber prices. If I’m going to pay a small fortune in materials the materials might as well be the best I can afford.

    With that in mind have you ever explored the option of insulated concrete forms? You submit an ICF house plan, or have one modified to ICF construction to a supplier of the forms. They gather the insulated forms you’ll need and ship them. A crew will assemble on site, install rebar, and do the other necessary steps and then pour the exterior walls full of concrete.

    You can even do floors and your roof in ICF.

    Build yourself a steel reinforced concrete house! Creaks and rattles? What are those? Wind blowing like a banshee off the mountains in Wyoming? You won’t even notice. That house will be standing strong 300 years from now.

    Plus the energy efficiency can’t be beat due to the thermal mass of all the concrete, and integrated interior and exterior insulation. If you poured a concrete floor over ICF floor panels you could run radiant in floor heat, and pretty much power the water heater for the in floor with your choice of heat source.

    ICF typically runs 10% higher than stick built in cost, but the energy savings over time often offset the higher initial cost.
     
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    Funny you should do the necromancy thing on this thread. I had thought about it myself. Things in life seldom stay the same and so the initial plan I had is no more. I'd still like to build here, but likely at a smaller scale/different floor plan.

    As for material costs, I am hoping that world events will change in the next few years and some level of sanity will return to the supply chain. I'm in no rush.
     
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    Oh there’s a correction on the horizon. Bide your time, build your war chest.
     
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    Glad I looked at this thread. My wife and I were eventually looking to build and ICF hadn't even crossed my mind mainly because there aren't any contractors around here that do it. I'll have to look into it now as there are some companies that do it under an 1 hour and half away.
     

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