Should my next one be a Tundra?

I am one of those longtime loyal GM owners. As I have grown older and more wise I seem to focus more on reliability, which is where the Tundra comes in. I am planning on a new one whenever the supply is back to a decent level and I am SERIOUSLY considering the Tundra. I am starting at a loss in terms of what each model brings in terms of bells and whistles and the website doesn't do the best job at outlining the options, etc. Looking for 4WD, leather, some of the nice safety features such as collision avoidance, etc. Thinking of not wasting any time looking at the 21s and will probably wait until the 22s are out.

Any input or guidance is greatly appreciated.

Was A Chevy!

 

Welcome aboard from NW Oregon!
It’s simple, really. If you want lots of state of the art technology and cutting edge bells and whistles, don’t get a tundra. If you plan to keep your new truck for longer than 4 or 5 years and aren’t particularly interested in hanging around a dealership for repairs and recalls, get a tundra

 

Welcome!

Bought my ‘21 precisely because it’s a 14 year old platform, and I have the best chance of going 300k+ miles doing my own routine maintenance (which I enjoy) and never seeing my dealer’s face again with this truck.

If you’re gonna pull a big camper, you might go HD domestic instead. I’d be in a GMC 2500 gasser if I needed more payload/towing than what the Tundra is rated for.

 

Welcome from Alaska

 

Couldn't agree more if I tried! I love having a "outdated truck".
Helps I'm not into the latest and greatest tech too.

Welcome @WasAChevy

 

No one really knows the answers to your questions for ‘22
But the 07-21 are tried and true. They don’t have all the best features (though a well equipped 20-21 Limited will hit the specific things you mentioned, and the Platinum or 1794 will add seat and mirrors memory and ventilated seats). I had 300k on my 2008 and my new 21 is the same motor and drive train with some updated aesthetics inside and out. That’s why I didn’t wait for the ‘22… I plan to get another 300k before shopping again.

 

I have had many gm and gmc halftons over the years and really most were great with very little unexpected problems.
This 2016 is my first Tundra witch has been great still drives like the day I bought after 5 years and not a single problem my original plan was to keep it longer than what I normally do ...but when it comes to making a change not sure if it would be another Tundra.
I probably will consider the new Silverado or gmc the current model is a far nicer truck to drive than the Tundra. It also and has way more options available if your into that ...though that's not a deal breaker for me.
With the New 2022 Tundra not far away hopefully it will be update with a much better ride and keep its reliability. One thing on my 2010 Silverado LTZ it had better materials on the interior than my 2016 1794 Tundra . The fit and finish on the tundra interior are not the best so hopefully that will change if not my next truck may not be a Tundra.

 

No idea what the 2022s will bring but sounds like the Limited might be a good fit for you.

 

Welcome from LA (Lower Alabama)! Check out this thread: https://www.tundras.com/threads/this-is-the-reason-we-drive-tundras.87194/

 

Chevy/GMC...1997, 2001,2008,2005HD too many problems to list/remember none of them cracked 100k!! 2013 Tundra... replaced water pump... 127,000 miles. I guess you could say I was a slow learner!

 

Yeah, my GMC was unreliable but it rode better and was quieter and was more comfortable while waiting for it to decide to start. You will get used to the Tundra but it’s not close to the domestics in the comfort/ride/gizmo categories. Then again the leather was coming apart by 25k on my GMC and the tundra at 26k looks new.

 

Welcome
I came from a 14’ GMC that had more recalls than oil changes...true story
And honestly buying a Tundra was the best thing I’ve ever done wish I did it sooner
Now every vehicle in my driveway is a Toyota
I’d look at into purchasing a Platinum when they become more readily available
Good luck on your search

 

Thanks guys! Just getting around to reading the comments. I am a 5th generation loyal GM truck owner.....and I need to rid myself of that mentality because I know that deep down the Tundra is far more reliable. Just beginning this journey. Funny that with money to spend I find myself in a situation where nobody has hardly any 21s and the 22s have not shown their faces yet. Good thing I am not in a hurry.

 

Just making sure you understand that the 2022's will not have a V8 lump. Looks like a smaller V6 twin turbo.

 

Yep, fully understand. Nothing I can do about that at this point. Less is more?

 

I am w you OP ......22 Tundra is gonna get a hard look.

06 GMC..... entire top less than 150k
08 Chevy .....needed rear end and tranny at 140k

things that should last till 400K

I bought a new 17 duramax 2500..sold it .... didn’t drive it. Heavy around town great on hwy. I am sure there are going to be emission troubles with the complexity of that system.

 

My 2020 TRD PRO has right at 2K now so I doubt I'll ever wear it out even after I retire. My pattern is if I see something I like better, I buy it. Had a 2017 Tacoma but the transmission and lack of power was a real bummer so I upgraded back to a Tundra. Really like to get a truck like I had...two door, regular cab, 5.7, six speed but Toyota quit making them too.

 

I bought a 2020 limited. If you can find a platinum, I would go that route. The little extras are worth it.

This is my fourth Tundra. Didn’t even look domestic except diesel. I do agree that toyota is way behind on options.

 

I'll agree to that...it's hard to beat the Toyota reliability.

 

The two Rs apply to Tundras: reliability and resale.

C and F apply to domestics: comfort and fancy sh*t…

 

Welcome! I kinda in the same boat so thanks for topic.

 

I'll throw this out there.....I have a 2016 Tundra that I bought brand new that just flipped over 42k(second vehicle for me). I factory ordered a new Chevy 1500 and ended up canceling it due to a variety or reason (one major one being rear slider leak). And quiet frankly, I came to my senses and realized, I just like things that work. Nothing is 100%, but feel the Tundra gives me the least risk possible of having issues. I wanna jump in my truck and go!

My truck still drives like it did the day I drove it off the lot and that's after a lot of its lifetime being spent on hunting and fishing trips. If you're gonna tow, know its capabilities (any vehicle for that matter). If not, it's my personal opinion that the Tundra is still the best half-ton on the market. I'm not a bells and whistles guy, just like things that work and the Tundra fires up every time, ready to go to work!

 

Totally agree. I'm on my 3rd one, which I bought a couple months ago. My 21 is a limited same as my 14 was. As with all the trucks I've owned, fancy stuff hasn't been that big of a priority. Although, my 21 does have quite a few more adds than my 14 had. I mostly a GM guy but did try an F150 once. Actually liked it better than the GM but, my Tundra is by far my favorite. I had been also looking at a diesel and just couldn't make the change from Toyota. Also was kind of scared to wait till the 22's due to what I've read.

 

In late 2020 I was where OP is now...

Bought a 2021 Tundra (TRD OR), no regrets. My ONLY gripe is that my favorite water bottle doesn't fit any of the cup holders, but I think I'll recover

I am not into fancy. I wanted utility, longevity, reliability. I dressed the seats with Wet Okole covers, and then set off into the exciting array of aftermarket products available for these trucks.
...(And amazing community of support here on this forum!)

 

i think it's safe to say you'll want the 22 now

 

Yes sir!

 

Yes, agree, wait a month or two and find out what the 22 brings.

The 21 will give you reliability, but there are no bells & whistles, it has a relatively low payload (although plenty of power), relatively bad gas mileage. It's expected the 22 will address all that _and_ give reason for people to switch from the domestics.

 

Late to the party, but as others have already posted the Limited trim will get you into leather and decent interior options and gizmos without going overboard.

As far as the latest tech, the 2021 is not offering it and Toyota isn’t in the business of putting bleeding edge tech on pickup trucks. The good news is they have plenty of tech equipment that is now well proven over at Lexus and it inevitably trickles down to Toyota once it’s proven. So the 2022 is going to probably offer a lot of features in the driver assistance department. Beyond that Apple Car Play and Android Auto are all you really need the screen to be able to do beyond whatever functions Toyota puts in there instead of on knobs and buttons. I myself will be coming out of a 2007 with none of those features other than Bluetooth, so the new truck will be a space ship in comparison.

The base engine we will see in the 2022 isn’t new, it’s been around since 2017 in the Lexus LS500. It will make more power under the curve in the RPM operating range people actually use than the current naturally aspirated 5.7L or any other naturally aspirated V8 in a 1/2 ton. Peak power will be better than all but the GM 6.2L V8, and high output Ford EcoBoost and PowerBoost. Peak power numbers are nice but who spends a lot of time at 5200RPM+ in their 1/2 ton truck? If you do you either should have bought a Corvette or Porsche, or a bigger truck.

The new 10 speed auto should keep you surfing a big fat wave of 479lb-ft of torque from 2000RPM-3600RPM under most conditions. For reference at 2000RPM the 479lb-ft made by the Land Cruiser 300 (same V35A-FTS we should see) = 182.4hp, and at 3600RPM that is 328.3hp; so the potential is there to get into boost under full load and make enough power to still not need to rev a lot.

There are already some tuners in the Middle East who have taken delivery of new LC 300’s getting baseline wheel horsepower numbers and it appears Toyota is being quite conservative with their ratings. I guess they want to ensure that the engine makes 409hp and 479lb-ft even if it’s 120F outside. Come to think of it a lot of their customers operate in those conditions.

Rumors are all over the place for the hybrid model. Everything from conservative power and electric range, to bonkers power and EV like range.

Hopefully Toyota will have answers for us soon.

 

Excited to see the spec sheet for the truck numbers, but watching EKanoo's dyno of the LC300 and seeing a STD corrected value of 377awhp is about 418 flywheel assuming 10-11% drivetrain loss; 403 flywheel for SAE corrected which are still quite good numbers. Also seeing how quickly the SUV got to 110mph was impressive but its hard to say how much load was put on the rollers. All of this could be manipulated to look better (like the STD correction factor) as they are a dealer of these.

One of the main things I am debating now is whether hybrid will be worth it; a fair amount of complexity to increase highway mpg and towing tq/hp numbers & capabilities. Also seems like we will be force to wait until summer 2022 for the hybrid release.