Yes, another “will it fit” question?

I posted this on the Facebook group as well, but looking for as much input as possible.

I’m ignorant so let me walk through this. Budget being around 3.5k for now, recently got stock 06 4WD with 50k miles on it and I want to turn it into a serious/lifetime 4x4 for trails in the North GA mountains. Looking at doing Icon 2.5’s extended travel front and rear. However, the most important needs right now are new tires. The goal is to eventually run 285/75/17’s(Toyo Open Country AT3 33.8”) on a Method NV305 wheel that has 0 offset and 4.5 back spacing, I think.

The current wheels are 17” Granite Alloys that have +12 offset. (Don’t crucify me here)Would I be able to to run 285/75/17’s (Toyo Open Country AT3 33.8”) ON STOCK RIDE HEIGHT, while also running a Brute Force Fab front bumper, without having to do do any trimming to the rear portion of the front fenders?

Not opposed to removing the mudflaps(figure I would have to), but don’t want to do a bunch of trimming. Not opposed to spacers either, something like 1.25”, don’t wanna get too crazy with the spacers though.

I just don’t have the funds to do Method wheels and Tires, Icon lift, and everything right now.

 

I know there are different ways of going about it, just trying to get folks opinions. And for those that say start with a smaller tire or cheap lift and work your way up... I don’t wanna take a loss trying to resell Bilsteins, spacer lifts, or smaller tires in the future

 

Sorry, but they will not fit without any suspension and BFH mods. Have a read through this thread: https://www.tundras.com/threads/largest-tire-you-can-run-stock-for-all-generations.9762/

Consider 285/75/16s on Method NV 305s after your suspension is done.

 

@des2mtn I’ve read that thread multiple times before, just thought the clearance in the front from the Brute Force Fab front bumper and the wheel spacers might make a difference.

 

There is a greater chance of this not working properly and prematurely wearing the tire than there is of everything working fine with no problems, that is how I see it. You might be taking a loss on the value of the tires if you try to put them in before suspension.

 

No, you won't be able to.

 

285/75/r16

The sweetest of sweet spots tire size on our trucks.

 

Yes, OP, the tire size is 285/75/16 *

You said ‘off-road’ which works best aired down. Getting 16” wheels instead of 17” let’s you fit more tire than wheel, which is good. If you’re trying to begin with the end in mind— not having to replace stuff along the way— go for smaller wheels.

Um, I agree with the others: what you want now isn’t realistic. Even with custom alignment and removing flaps, that tire won’t fit without chopping or changing. You might fit ‘em and drive... straight... but you’ll lock while turning, especially in reverse. You’ll trash your tires, potentially tear the fenders off, or— worse— not be able to turn as needed somewhere it matters.

What you CAN do is leave that cash in the bank and run those tires you have on it; get your money’s worth on those while you save up. Air down a bit, don’t go bombing at top speed anywhere with sharp rocks... but you’ll be a better off-road driver because of having to learn to get the truck to do what you want, as is. Meanwhile, sock away money every time you’re tempted to make a small “nothing” purchase... coffee, gum, chew, a magazine...and very soon you can built it the way you want all at once.

 

This is sound advice. Not the funnest advice (big tires right now is fun), but the most sound.

That, or pull a 2nd mortgage and go full long travel!

 

The main clearance issues for bigger tires on these trucks is UCA for factory wheels, and rear portion of the front fender. The front bumper will hit just on the outside edge, but that's it. That's an easy trim. The hard part is the rear part of the inner fender well. On stock suspension, you can clear stock tires. That's about it. Bigger tires will need more room and it isn't there. Lifting help a little. Spacers will help with UCA clearance, and hurt with fender clearance. Changes the scrub radius of the tire and actually pushes it further into the wheel well. Adding a heavier bumper in the front will cause the front suspension to sag a little lower with the weight. This will bring the tire closer to the fender well.

In summary, there is no way in hell or on this green earth that a 33.8" tire will fit in the front wheel well of a first gen Tundra without some extensive modifications. Every thread concerning this on this site says the same thing. Certainly not going to fit with stock suspension.

 

Haha! I didn’t mortgage... but I am still paying for my long travel.

 

@Sunnier I remember reading somewhere on here that people issues running 16” on the 04-06 DC with the calipers or something to do with the brakes. Not dedicated specifically to the 17” rims

 

After reading the responses, the news is what I figured would be the case. Just didn’t know if the angle of the Brute Force Fab and spacers would help the case at all.

 

Both will likely hurt the situation.

 

16" Method NV 305s will clear the 13WL calipers on an '04 DC, I can tell you that.

 

Depends on the 16s...most will clear, but some won't.

 

I run 16” SCS wheels. No trouble with calipers.

 

OP, not sure if you've seen this other thread, but: https://www.tundras.com/threads/official-tundra-wheel-and-tire-setups-pics-and-info.95/

 

I’ve got method 304 double standards 0 offset w/ 4.5 inch backspace on an 06 double cab. Wrapped in 265/75/16s on a leveling kit. Have the ads coilovers to replace with just haven’t got them on yet

what size tires on it now? Is it the stock 245’s?

 

@Cummins3500 I think they are 265/60/17 Hankook tires. They’ve been on there since I bought it in August