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This shit is crazy NEED HELP!!!!

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by Tundra_power, Jan 23, 2021.

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What is the problem!!!

  1. Wheel bearing

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  2. Driver side lower control arms bushings

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  3. This shit is crazy...

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  1. Jan 24, 2021 at 5:25 AM
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    JohnLakeman

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    Recommend you find an alignment specialist at a shop for modified offroad suspensions. As @joonbug indicates, there appears IMO to have been some unorthodox hammer technique applied to the cam eccentric stops and LCA.

    Since there are front and rear stops on each wheel, I'm thinking those stops should be making contact about the same time with factory setup; i.e. on full lock turn to the right, the front knuckle stop (large primary stop) should contact on the driver-side, and the secondary passenger-side knuckle stop (rear) should contact more-or-less simultaneously.

    The flexing of your driver side suspension appears to result from the driver-side knuckle stop (front) making contact well before the other side, and the power steering rack forcing the driver-side LCA to move forward. LCA forward movement continues until all driver-side LCA bushing travel is completely squashed, the steering rack hits an internal stop, or until the passenger-side knuckle contacts the rear stop on the passenger side. Not good for steering rack or LCA bushings.

    I think @BobsYourUncle is right, your tie rod ends are improperly adjusted causing steering rack to be off-center. Further, your alignment is being brute-forced by a hack. An alignment specialist is probably going to have to start by centering the rack, then, beginning with the inner tie rod ends, precision adjust everything out to the wheels.
     
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  2. Jan 24, 2021 at 5:52 AM
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    Thanks for explaining it a LOT better than I did. My explanation was fueled by a couple of drinks!
     
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  3. Jan 24, 2021 at 7:22 AM
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    Ok guys it's getting it check know... Right now I'm voting on that either the LCA is lose or the steering is off-center causing to hit the stop way before the wheel is at full lock
     
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  4. Jan 24, 2021 at 7:26 AM
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    2 obvious problems are visible, first is alignment, need a better alignment shop. The alignment cam in the picture is upside down(blue arrow), this bends the mount and creates a gap that reduces clamping force and allows movement(red arrow).
    D6B4496D-CFEF-454E-BAF4-566E92890D1C.jpg
    Correct orientation of alignment cam
    8F911ECF-AD6F-482E-826C-41626DCEC55D.jpg

    2nd is the bushings, they are visually worn and the sleeve is pulling out of the control arm. Took some pics off a spare set for comparison.
    87B94D27-A465-4703-8AD7-B4EB85C3D1AB.jpg E9117890-39BD-4360-87BD-EBB2213FC147.jpg 57D89D9E-B3A9-40BE-BF9B-EA299D76171E.jpg
     
  5. Jan 24, 2021 at 8:11 AM
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    2mchfun Yeah it'll pull it, just don't expect to stop!

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    Good diagnostics! I had suspected something had to be upside down, backwards, inverted, or just the wrong specification or faulty parts were used.
     
  6. Jan 24, 2021 at 8:19 AM
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    Ok guys that was a total crap shoot It still does it... That alignment shop is shit... I'm at another one right now. I told them about the backwards alignment cam... On Tuesday I'm going to CTM customs I'm done with bs alignment...
     
  7. Jan 24, 2021 at 8:24 AM
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    2mchfun Yeah it'll pull it, just don't expect to stop!

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    Bad bushing I think
     
  8. Jan 24, 2021 at 8:40 AM
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    2mchfun Yeah it'll pull it, just don't expect to stop!

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    Don't let it get you down, we all have our moments both good and less than good. However you see it, just be thankful you have the truck, you had or were able to take the time and a whole bunch of people learned a few things from you because you shared this whole experience. It could always be worse bro! I mean sometimes people attempt this stuff and unfortunately end up dead when the truck falls on them. Hang tough and rock on!
     
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  9. Jan 24, 2021 at 8:42 AM
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    I know I here you man.. and I am thankful for all of your helps guys I just want it to end....
     
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  10. Jan 24, 2021 at 9:13 AM
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    Ok it seems like the dip is alot better after the 2nd alignment..
    IMG_20210124_121133035.jpg
     
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  11. Jan 24, 2021 at 9:15 AM
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    But it no where close. I'm going to CTM customs in Tuesday and tell them about the dip... Both of those alignments are pretty bad... I checked and all the cam tabs are parallel with the bolt, it was the picture that threw it off my bad...
     
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  12. Jan 24, 2021 at 9:21 AM
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    Yes you were right, I told the alignment guy that the alignment cam is backwards I asked them can you fix it and he said sorry everything is in the green. So it is still backwards as of right now..
     
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  13. Jan 24, 2021 at 10:23 AM
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  14. Jan 24, 2021 at 11:51 AM
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    I’m not an alignment expert but total toe and caster look way too high. @Ruggybuggy what say you?
     
  15. Jan 24, 2021 at 12:01 PM
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    Yes your right it way off THIS IS WHAT IM LOOKING FOR...
    Camber 0. 0
    Caster 3.0. 3.3 without affecting camber
    Toe. 0.12. 0.12. Total toe 0.24+
     
  16. Jan 25, 2021 at 6:35 PM
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    Ok guys it's just got weirder... The dip and vibration went away after the 2nd alignment yesterday... The alignment cam is still backwards.. CTM customs will fix that and fix my alignment.. my theory to all of this is that the driver side LCA was not tighten to 200ft causing the vibration and causing the dip.. the 1st alignment shop that originally align my truck didn't tighten the LCA completely and than I went back their again yesterday and told them my issues and they didn't even touch my LCA. The second shop did and no more problem..
     
  17. Jul 26, 2023 at 3:42 PM
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    Old thread but the problem was never the LCA. It was a bent wheel bearing. I replaced them about a year ago and never followed up but I found out by rotating my tires myself and found out that the driver side wheel would not sit flush with the wheel bearing but once torque down it looked normal very strange. So moral of the story is don’t jack your truck on one side for too long or you will have a bent wheel bearing.
     
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  18. Jul 26, 2023 at 4:00 PM
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    i read through a lot of this thread. Im glad you posted this update, good learning lesson for everyone. Did you DIY the whee bearings?
     
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  19. Jul 26, 2023 at 4:02 PM
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    Yes pretty simple my truck is 2wd makes it a lot easier.
     
  20. Jul 26, 2023 at 4:20 PM
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    2mchfun Yeah it'll pull it, just don't expect to stop!

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    Do you have a picture of this bent "wheel bearing"?
     
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  21. Jul 26, 2023 at 8:28 PM
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    Was it bent or not seated properly on install? How did it not vibrate like hell being bent?
     
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  22. Jul 30, 2023 at 6:45 PM
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    It did vibrate but it wasn’t consistent. And no I don’t have a picture of the bent wheel bearing.
     
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  23. Jul 30, 2023 at 7:08 PM
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    Well thanks for the update anyway. You’re bound to help someone looking for an answer.
     

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