Schaeffers 0w-20 Oil Change

I have a buddy that was telling me about this brand of oil, they service their tri-axle dump truck with it (has 700k miles on it) since the start using Schaeffer's 15w-40, but he was telling me about the sales rep coming to give a demo of how this oil brand compares to Rotella and other brands of oil. He stated that he had some kind of bearing fixture on an electric motor to demonstrate. Apparently this Shaeffers oil will not allow a bearing to lock up (again this was some kind of demonstration fixture the rep had) under much pressure unlike all the other oils they demonstrated. My friend said the Rep pulled oil off their shelf, not stuff he had brought with him as well. They mixed water in with the oil and it still continued to do its job and did not turn thick and milky. Im gonna call it the "burn point" probably not the right term for it but it was like 400 degrees compared to most other brands at around 200 degrees. Anyone have any experience with something like this? I am thinking of switching to this brand for all of the specs my friend told me about that this oil brand offers. I know everyone has their own opinion of oil, thats not what I am looking for here. Just looking for information about any of you all running Schaeffers or any other brand with a similar story that has been demonstrated like this.

**I am currently running Valvoline High Mileage with a factory Toyota filter**

 

Used it in the Fire District vehicles. Sent oil samples in to determine when we needed to change the oil. Did filters yearly, and topped off. Even with the cold start, short run time the units typically had oil held up well.

 

Your Valvoline is a good oil. If your changing your oil according to the maintenance schedule you will be fine with just about any oil as long as it has the highest API service spec.

 

I’ve run Schaeffers before. It’s really good oil and a great record for being quality.

That being said...Valvoline products are also really good and have a ton of outstanding Used oil analysis’ posted up.

Honestly, the most important thing is regular maintenance. Yes...some oils are designed more for extended oil change intervals. However when keeping regular OCI’s, pretty much all oils nowadays are really really good as long as you meet specs.

Use either Schaeffer or Valvoline with confidence.

 

I summon all my mana and cast Amsoil lvl 2 upon this thread.

 

I'm all in for veggie oil.

 

Im all in for my valvoline, been running it for years in all 4 of my vehicles, I do run castrol from time to time as well, but I was just blown away with the information that my friend was telling me about the schaeffers. you do pay quite a bit for this type of oil though. I believe it will be about $70-80 for 8 quarts of it. where as Im only spending $50 now for my valvoline.

 

Schaffer makes great stuff. We use it by the barrel for tractors and the combine. You just won't find it in most stores and have to go to a specific dealer or thru a sales representative.

 

That is where the testing comes in. But then you have to weigh the costs of the tests vs "just change the oil". I think if you want to do the whole testing thing you will find that 20Kmile change intervals will be the norm with the Schaeffers. My '03 4Runner got 12k interval changes and was still doing fine when I got rid of it at 446,000 miles. The engine was fine, but the running gear was worn out. I figure if a tractor trailer rig can go 25-30K miles between changes with their loads, I didn't need to do 6K changes unless there was a problem. But I never went with less than a "top shelf: oil brand.

 

My ‘17 5.7 has 40k on it. Plan on using Mobile1....it’s avail everywhere around here, unless someone can give me a reason not to. I’ve never seen the Schaffer’s.

 

Yea I have a store and a sales rep close to me, so I got that part covered. I just dont know what the best thought is, right now Im running about 7,500 on oil changes in my tundra. but going to 10k+ would be nice as well.

 

You really shouldn't base the oil change interval on what kind of oil your using. Engines produce contaminates from the combustion process that oil suspend until the next oil change. Change interval should be based upon your driving conditions, severe or normal.

 

I'll assume your truck is not under warrantee.

Before you swap, send the oil out for analysis (Blackstone) and note the report you get back. If you switch, change at the same mileage, and send it out. Any wear indicators change?
If yes, go back. If no, go with your preference. If better, stay with Schaeffer's

 

Yea Im way out of warranty.

 

The wrong spell component is used. You and your truck are now covered in baby oil.

 

If I want to spend $9-10 a quart, i would buy Amsoil.

 

I've used Schaeffer's in previous vehicles. It is much more common in the heavy truck/equipment industry. It worked great in my Ford V10 and the Explorer V6 I ran it in, but it never performed better or worse than Mobil 1. I did Blackstone tests on them both. I did run it in my Ford with the Ecoboost and it didn't hold up as well as Castrol in that motor (neither did Mobil 1). Wear metals were higher and it sheared (thinned) out of spec. It wasn't in the "bad" range, but noticeable.

Our motors are not harsh on oil, so there's no reason to run it IMO. Especially at their price point. I doubt it will last longer than any other oil, but you'd need an used oil analysis on a sample from your motor to really make that decision. Don't believe the salesman.

 

One other thing that must be taken into consideration is quantity. Our FD water tender used (as I remember) 14 GALLONS of oil. At that quantity, testing becomes very cost effective.

Where my snowcat uses 3 qts. I use synthetic in it and change every season. It will see excess temp at least once per season and while synthetic holds better than traditional oil, it's much cheaper to change than test.

the two extremes of quantity

 

I run Schaeffers front to back in my tundra, in everything except the transfer case. I love it. Its in both my trucks, my 7.3 loves it! I have a rep close to me that gives me good deals and free bottles of Citrol when I buy a few cases. I have a UOA thread on it, its worth a look. Had 9k miles on the oil, and I think 196k on the odo when I performed the change. I highly recommend it and if you can get it, do it! Look at some of their million mile engine tear downs. They're also the oldest oil company in America, and have been family owned the entire time. One of the guys there I believe has some certifications that only 3 or 5 people in the world have. They have tons of knowledge and if you ever have any questions just give them a call and they will be more than happy to help you out, if they don't have the answer immediately, they'll give you a call back when someone more knowledgeable is able to answer your question. Top notch company with superior products. Do it do it do it!

 

I've been running Schaeffers in my Tundra since day one. I bought my '15 used July 31, 2018, and changed the oil immediately about 2-3 days later. I've put right on 50k miles on it since buying it at 86k, all of that with Schaeffers. It is due for an oil change, so I will be taking a sample for Blackstone. I've been running Schaeffers in my older T100 since late 2013. I did a few Blackstone tests with the T100, but I can't find all of my results. Shown is one of the earlier tests I did with the truck. Just for some history, I bought my T100 in September, 2008, and spoke with the previous owner when he traded it in to the dealer I was working for at the time. He'd been running Mobil1 in it since its first oil change. I bought it from the dealer after his trade in with 102k on it. As of this writing, it's up to 238k, and has been supercharged since 170k, right after this testing shows. I need to do a new test, as I've been running Schaeffers in it for so long, but the reduction in wear metals was enough of a reason to do it for me. As Sumo91 stated, I run it front to back in both trucks. The T100 gets pushed much harder than my Tundra, as it's my fun 4x4 vehicle.

 

These are pretty good videos, Mobil 1 vs Schaefer’s.

https://youtu.be/aT2qa-2TuLA

 

So long as an oil meets certifications/grade requirements and it's from a reputable company it won't make one bit of difference. Your truck will never know the difference between Schaeffer's and Valvoline. Schaeffer's is good oil but so is Valvoline.

 

Shoo! Go away and take your science with you.

Obviously a sorcerer.

 

Have used Shaeffer's Moly for years in my Mazda Skyactiv engines. Good stuff. Have to believe their motor oil is on-par with other top brands.

 

Couldn't agree more!

 

Your probably right, but I will say, in addition to the testing I showed on my T, I've done the valve cover gaskets twice in my time of ownership (the curse of the 3.4. They always leak, no matter what you do lol). One thing that I noticed between the first set of gaskets (replaced at approx. 125-130k, not completely sure) and the second set (done while installing the supercharger at 170k) is that the engine was much cleaner internally, and didn't have near the deposits in the valve train area when I popped the covers off the second time.