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2013 Sequoia Platinum 4x4 w/air suspension - Rear Shock R+R question

Discussion in 'Sequoia 2nd Gen (2008-2022)' started by sprech, Jun 2, 2020.

  1. Jun 2, 2020 at 4:51 PM
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    Has anyone replaced the rear shocks on their platinum? Mine has 175k on it and the shocks are definitely in need of replacement all around. I was looking at all data for the R&R process, and it talks about removing exhaust pipes, heat shields, prop shafts and height control assemblies. It "looks" somewhat straightforward as far as just removing the wheel and then replacing the shock, but is the removal of all of these items necessary for a proper install and height adjustment? Part of the process says to reinstall the shocks loosely, reinstall all of the parts, including the tire, set it back on the ground, bounce it up and down, and then tighten the shocks. Any thoughts?

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    Bueller... Bueller... I know the Sequoia Platinum was not mass produced, but does anyone have any information on whether all of these steps and disconnections are necessary to proper functioning and of the system post-shock replacement?
     
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    I don’t think you should have any issues. Shocks are a dampening mechanism and don’t change the ride height of the vehicle. Now if you were changing out coil springs in the rear end that is definitely a lot more work with those bags in there.

    I would just pop the tire off and replace the shock as you mentioned. Also the leaving the shocks bolt loose until there is weight on the vehicle is normal, usually a bigger deal for the front coilovers as you don’t want the bushings to get bound up.. When replacing anything on rubber bushing this is typically the route I take.. have had a bushing bind up on a sway bar once before because I tightened it while the vehicle was in the air and it made the truck drive terrible.

    Good luck, and stick to the easy route!
     
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    Thanks. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Now, I don't know how good the alldatadiy software is for these various purposes and like I said, it seemed like a lot to do for a shock, especially one that looks otherwise unencumbered.

    Bryan
     
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    Congrats on making it to 175k before changing the shocks out. I had a 2011 Limited and my front shocks were shot at 65k. I replaced them and then found out that the rear shocks were leaking at 85k along with the dealer telling me that I needed to replace the front control arms and steering rack. At that point I kicked it down the road as it seemed like the suspension was shot after getting a 2nd opinion.

    When I did the front shocks it was a 3 hour job at a 3rd party mechanic at around $650 total in case you don't want the hassle. With the air suspension it might be more complicated than just a straight change out of the shocks.
     
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    Thanks. I don't mind the hassle, and I could get front and rear's replaced for $850 labor at a local shop using the Costco discount. I just want to make sure that there isn't any particular reason I would need to remove all of that stuff to get the rears on. Since it otherwise seems like a straightforward installation, I will do it myself if I don't decide to sell it and get something else. I did drive a used LX570, and man, the ride on that thing! But with that ride comes an eventual bill for repairing that suspension which is probably equivalent to replacing/repairing that on the Sequoia. Overall, I really love to drive the Sequoia, which is why we've put about 63k on it since buying it at the end of 2017.
     
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    I finally got around to swapping my All Seasons back on and I took a closer look (but forgot to take pics) of the rear shock setup and it looks very straight forward which is why the number of steps outlined in the alldatadiy manual has me confused. Maybe it is for removing the rear air spring or something.
     
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    I also have a 2013 Sequoia Platinum that is my wife's. Recently I see there are yellowish oily puddles under the inner rear tires. I looked and I can see both rear shocks are wet with a drip formed at the bottom of the shocks. Now, what are the odds that they both start leaking at the same time? The vehicle has 56,376 miles on it. Most of the Sequoias I see around here are either Limited or Platinum trim so I know there are plenty of similar vehicles out there. Since the Platinum has the adjustable shocks that have electronic dampening control (via the dial on the dash, Sport, Middle Position, and Comfort) on all four corners and the self leveling rear ride height, I decided to call some Toyota Dealers to find out the cost for the two rear shocks to be replaced since the mileage is so low I see no need for the fronts also. I was quoted over $2300 for the rear two shocks and another $1000 for the front from two separate dealers in two different states to make sure I wasn't being taken to the cleaners. They said the rear shocks are quoted as a 6.5 hour job. I might be trading it in on that simple bit of information. I was thinking of tackling it myself but if a dealer with a lift and all of the correct tools needs over 6 hours to complete the job on the rear only I may be in over my head. I'll follow up to let you know if I get brave and decide to spend $1114 for a set of rear shocks from a Toyota Dealer through Ebay and dive in myself. I hope you do the same if you decide to try. Good luck! We'll all need it.
     
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    That really doesn’t seem right to me.. can you post some pictures of what the rear shock set up looks like? I have never heard of electronic dampening within the shocks of these Sequoias...

    EDIT: So I was definitely wrong... this is a thing.

    Here is a good read: the price to replace with OEM is absurd! I would replace with aftermarket and ditch the ability to electronically control the shock. Or even for that price you could find some take-offs from a 2020 TRD Pro sequoia and get the reservoired Fox shock tuned perfectly for the Sequoia... also another owner confirmed that the shock does just unbolt with a quick disconnect on the electrical plug.
     
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    That is consistent with what I have been quoted. I tried to wrap my mind around the 6.5 horus and that's why I asked the original questions, because I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything. It really feels like it might be the procedures to remove the air springs or something and they decided that all of the procedures prior to R&R of the shock were necessary. Maybe they are, but it doesn't look like it.

    The best pricing I have found so far, I think including shipping on the rears and building a new front is about $1650. For the fronts I'd be doing new springs (~125/ea), strut mounts ($80/ea) and the various strut mount nuts etc. If you just buy the new front shock absorbers, those are only $115 each, the rears are ~$450/ea. If you just do the rears, it will cost you apx $1k if you do it yourself. I have seen Chinese manufactured replacements for a bit less, but I'm dubious of the quality. I don't have a quote just yet to build the front assembly and I might just get the spring compressors and do it myself, or go to HF or NT and get one of those hydraulic presses with spring attachment. Overall, local dealers want about $3300 to do the suspension and that didn't include the springs or the strut mounts, which if the patient is already going to be open, you might as well do it, right?

    Finding take-offs is definitely an option, but if I'm going to get that far into it, I'd look to see if there is a coil-over option although it will likely call for some welding. That being said, one of the reasons I bought the Sequoia was the superior ride when compared to a 07-14 Escalade/Denali. I recently drove a 2012 Platinum with 105k on it and it drove how mine used to. The funny thing being that since it was a slow degradation, I didn't realize there was a problem until I realized there was a problem. I typically take it to a dealer for service because I haven't found a local shop that I trust just yet and they have yet to even mention the shocks, but they will be more than happy to take my money to tell me that there is a problem.

    On a bit of a separate tangent, have any of you run into issues with your lug nuts splaying? Mine went from a 22mm to a 23mm. I thought the dealer was yanking my chain, but sure enough, it was an issue. Damn things are super expensive too.
     
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    had this issue before on my old Subaru.. it had to chrome plated lugs.. water got in there and the plates separated from the lugs.. had to chisel the caps off because all they did was spin.... kind of a different issue, but my way of saying anything can happen
     
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    I found my list and all the parts are 1634.42 plus about $60 in shipping to me. I need to find someone with a Toyota parts discounts. Anyone? LOL
     
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    That might be what happened here, and I made the mistake of purchasing the ones with the chrome sheath as opposed to being chrome plated, but if it happens again, that's the way I'll go.
     
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    Thanks to @Roman, we have this always available at Toyota of Cool Springs. Not sure if anything better out there right now
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    Thanks for the reply, I did reach out to him and he was very responsive. Unfortunately, even with the discount they were still over by quite a few bucks.
     
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    All parts ordered and should be here Friday. Just under $1700 total including shipping.
     
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    Is that for the OEM Electronic shocks front and rear?
     
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    Yes, it is. It also includes the tie rod end boots, which I need to replace. I also elected to do new springs and strut mounts and all of the hardware for the front shocks as I'm going to have to tear it all apart anyhow. That probably added ~450 to the bill.

    Shipment Details
    Part Number Part Name Price Quantity
    45535-0C030 Tie Rod Boot $16.62 2
    48510-34040 Shock Absorber $115.37 2
    48132-0C061 Spring $124.35 1
    48131-0C561 Coil Spring $124.35 1
    48530-34051 Shock Absorber $444.68 2
    48609-0C040 Strut Mount $79.75 2
    90105-A0382 Strut Mount Bolt $7.70 2
    90178-A0052 Strut Mount Nut $1.13 8
    48597-34020 Strut Mount Retainer $7.91 2
    90948-02203 Strut Retainer $7.64 2
    90178-A0084 Bushing Nut $1.55 2
    Subtotal: $1,620.18
    Shipping (FedEx Ground Home Delivery): $72.68
    Total: $1,692.86
     
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    Nice. Thanks for the breakdown. Let us know how difficult it ends up being. Let's see if you can beat the 6.5 hour estimate for the rear shocks like the dealer quoted. Good luck!
     
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    Right? I still don't see why you have to remove all of the stuff they say you have to remove. It looks very straightforward, so that's why I'm perplexed, and I suppose it's not enough that these listed over $70k when new. I've been meaning to do my rears brakes for a while as wells, so those will get done at the same time.

    The fronts look relatively simple as well. A total of six or so bolts and the suspension leveling assembly on top of the strut and you should be good to go.

    Did you ever end up doing anything with yours or are you still waiting for a sucker like me to attempt it. :frusty:
     
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    Ours has less than 57K miles on it and isn't racking up any miles lately. It's been around the block twice in the last 3+ months to charge the battery (that's when I noticed the leaky puddles). I'm in no hurry to spend thousands on a dormant vehicle so yeah, pretty much waiting to see how yours turns out.
     
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    No worries, I was just giving you a hard time. I knew it was going to cost a few bucks, but when I was quoted that 6 hours for the rears, I thought that was pretty ridiculous. That's why I subscribed to alldatadiy, only to see all of what is supposedly called for, most of which did not make any sense. I'll try to remember to take pics and such for the install to help people out. That being said, for the same amount of money or even less, one could probably convert the rears to a true coil over setup and upgrade the front strut setup. Personally, I love the way the truck rode and that was one of the main reasons I purchased it in the first place. What part of the country are you in?
     
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    Sounds good. Photos would be great. We like the select-a-ride comfort of the OEM shocks too. Curvy road, throw it in sport. Bad potholes, click it over to comfort and you get Uncle Buck's ride. I didn't want to delete that either. I'm in East Tennessee.
     
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    Well, at the risk of jinxing it, it looks like McGeorge Toyota has come through. According to FedEx the packages are out for delivery. They also let me know what redundant parts I had and removed them from the order and while the strut mount bolts and one of the strut mount retainers were on backorder, they were able to ship everything else and I found the missing parts locally, so the install is happening this weekend!
     
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    No sooner did I hit post, did I get a notification from FedEx that one of the two packages was not going to be delivered until tomorrow! I guess that will give me time to work on the Chevelle.
     
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    Any luck with this project? I need to do this since mine sits at 149k and ride could definitely be better...
    Thanks for sharing your experience!
     
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    I just ordered a pair for my 2013 Sequoia Platinum as well. Has 179K miles on and is otherwise (knock on wood) in excellent shape. I bought it new and have been absolutely religious about the maintenance. The vast majority I do myself with very little issues. Fortunately there have been no larger issues. My left-rear shock started "clunking" a few months ago. I did have it into the shop because I was laid up with a broken ankle at the time. Dealer suggested it was the shock. No leaks, though. They suggested i just keep driving it that no further harm could be done. It was quoted at over $2K which I am not willing to spend. I found and ordered the parts from McGeorge Toyota. They were a full $200 cheaper than my local dealer and each shock was $444. They arrive next week. Looks like a very straightforward job. I will disconnect battery due to the electronic sensor as extra, easy, precaution, lower vehicle before torquing the bolts to seat the bushings, but that's it. I "hope" that this isn't really a 6.5 hour job! That seems a bit crazy to me.
     
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    Do you have any feedback on this rear shock job? I just purchased an OEM electric shock absorber. Is it any easy swap? Thank you
     
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    Very easy. Made more easy if you have ratcheting wrenches. I do not and the clearances for the top bolts are tight, so many, many turns with an open box wrench. But it works. 2 bolts each side. No problem.
     
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    I've recently discovered that I have a leaky rear shock on my '14. It does look simple. Anything to watch out for when replacing?
     
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