Bushing kit upgrade

I’m looking to upgrade my bushing on my 2004. Any recommendation? Thanks

 

Which bushing?

 

Front end bushing. Control arms etc

 

Just get new control arms...way easier

 

Buy new high dolla Toy OEM control arms. Last I checked they were $300+/- each!

 

Ok thanks

 

Someone chime in on the brand of Cam Bolts needed. Those OEM Bolts are high dolla, but you can get le$$ cost aftermarkets of better quality and they allow better adjustments (at least thats what my installer/alignment guy told me).

 

Any links to where I can get them?

 

Rock auto dot com

Moog upper and lower control arms

 

Not sure what the pricing of the OE cam bolts are but SPC offers them for $60/pair.
https://www.spcalignment.com/compon...Tundra&year=2004 - 2004&from=USAFrom&to=USATo

 

So the Moog brand is good quality?

 

Its is for everything BUT the LBJs. Only OEM on those. Probably the UBJs too.

 

Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind

 

I've been using AC Delco Pro for the last few years instead of Moog after I had a couple bad experiences (sway bar end links and tie rod ends) with them not lasting more than a year.

Typically a little more expensive but I haven't had any issues so far.

 

I have used Moog upper and lower ball joints without issue. Your decision may be different

 

I've had good luck with the Moog. I've also noticed that the zerk fitting on some of the replacement parts don't like to take grease. Poor lubrication may be what's killing some of these parts early.

 

On a 1st gen? Moog is known to self destruct in a few thousand miles.

 

I've ordered parts from suppliers like Dorman, Moog, AC Delco, Raybestos, you name it and I've probably tried it. The thing I notice is no indication that any of them actually manufactured parts, they all seem to be middlemen. I ran Raybestos lower balljoints for years, they were stamped 555 (sankei 555) which are good Japanese parts.

I got lower arms from one of those companies (Beck Arnley) and the left and right were clearly from different manufacturers. I think the perceived quality of these brands is luck of the draw. With a critical thing like the lower balljoint on these trucks, I went Toyota last time just for peace of mind. Lower arms and such, luck of the draw but I wouldn't hesitate to go Moog there.

 

i put over 90,000 miles on my moogs without issue. They were Japan stamped,and I kept and eye on them.

A common misconception is that you “grease until it pops out the old stuff and goes everywhere”

I greased mine,a pump or two at a time,as they need it.

 

This is very true, my experience exactly as a consumer and parts slinger way back when.

For me a lot of times I will use the pictures in rock auto to see if I can ID a logo (such as the sankei stuff) OR will go to local auto parts stores and take a look at their mid/top tier in house brands and open the box to see who actually manufactured them. Using veteran discount always helps take the edge of brick and mortar auto parts vs. online.

I will say that I too have had good luck with AC Delco as of late, though my tendency has typically been to trust the older Japanese brands I was used to. Not so sure that is necessary now a days.

 

Thanks for all the feedback

 

Lca's and Lbj's, and lower bushings. buy the whole set from toyota. fast cheap, reliable.

 

@10 Blue truck
Fast and cheap from where? Web site?

 

Depends on your perspective. I loooked at pressing out and pressing in new lca bushings. I went factory lca's because the 100 bucks more for parts new, factdory pressed, was way less than buying and pressing all the components correctly. my buddy that machines woulda busted my wallet and been guessing. Your tool access and knowledge may be different. But, where I live, where I can access machine shops, I woulda lost money over a factory press.

 

This is good feedback and the type of wisdom I try to give others, as well. Sometimes (definitely in the LCA case) its best to buy the entire unit assembled, unless you own the machine shop!

 

I just replaced the entire front suspension on my 05 sequoia. All OEM parts. Conicelli toyota is cheapest. Best choice I've made.

I replaced a bunch of suspension parts less than a year ago with cheapo autozone parts.. Never again. Half the parts failed.

Buy once, cry once.

Parts I bought

Both lower control arms
Both outter tie rods
Both inner tie rods
Steering rack
Both lower ball joints
SPC upper control arms
Bilstein 6112 with 600 pound springs
Energy rack bushings.


The entire front suspension has transformed and now it shows how bad the rear is lacking now.. Onto 5160's in the back and possibly new trailing arms.

 

Another thing to consider when taking a gamble on less expensive front end parts: When you replace ball joints, tie rod ends, control arms/bushings, etc., you need to get a front end alignment -- about $100 where I am? If budget tie rod ends save you $50 but only last two years, thats a dramatic false economy.

 

Tie rod ends are close for me. Is there a consensus choice on metal that takes a beating and rubber that doesn't fail? I'm hoping my well behaving inner rods and rack will last a bit longer. But I am sharing this truck with my dad in his 70's and he keeps on hitting square front obstacles, cause he always has and the truck takes it, but I can't go less durable as he ages.. I need durable.