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Jacks for Off-Road Tire Changing

Discussion in 'Recovery & Gear' started by equin, May 15, 2020.

  1. May 15, 2020 at 4:30 PM
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    I was wondering what folks like to use when changing tires on the trail. Now that I’m older and feebler, I’d prefer not to use a hi-lift unless really necessary. And even then, the only safe mounting spot I have for one is by using their wheel adapter.

    I’ve practiced with a big bottle jack stacked underneath a couple wooden boards, but it’s slower than the scissor jack, and it already leaked a bit of hydraulic oil upon lowering. It’s still small enough to take with me, though, so I think it would be good to keep as a secondary option.

    The aluminum jacks with a skid plate look promising, but they’re still about 60 lbs or so and would take up more room in the bed. The setup I was thinking of was this one from James Way Off Road:

    http://www.jameswayoffroad.com/James-Way-HF-3-Ton-Jack-Skid_p_14.html

    Unfortunately, I believe they may be on lockdown since there’s no answer, and they haven’t replied to my email. But that’s one idea.

    As for the bed space and weight issue, I came across an old thread from race-dezert.com where someone outfitted their rig with a used military surplus Hummer H1 scissor jack. Apparently, they’re rated to lift over 3 tons and have a wide base plate. So I got a used one off ebay and am awaiting arrival of the axle/frame adapter from Agile Off-Road. It came with a nifty canvas bag and looks like it would make a good addition. I just need to practice with it once I get the adapter. Anyone have experience with it? I’m including some pics of it.

    What does everyone else use on the trail for spare tire changes?

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  4. May 15, 2020 at 4:34 PM
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    Nice!
     
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    Safejack has some seriously cool stuff!
    *Pro Eagle Jacks are a great option.
    I just got a Hi-lift, but I've yet to use it. I doubt I'll have any issues, but I don't have an opinion to offer just yet.
     
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  6. May 15, 2020 at 4:38 PM
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    hi-lifts are super versatile. you just have to pay attention. you want to start it with a slight outwards angle. the bottom should be closer to the truck than the top. also, if you are lifting near a door, open the door. i've seen a few jacks slip and go right through the door.

    i recommend getting a slider tube adapter. i have a jakjaw but toytec has as well. also, the wheel lift is an option as well just as long as that isn't the tire you have to change.
     
  7. May 15, 2020 at 4:39 PM
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    A hi-lift can be useful for other things. I have their manual winch kit with a tree saver but have never used it as such. They’re not indestructible and will bend, though. I actually bent my old one trying to extract my brother-in-law’s crunched-in bumper from his F150. That surprised me! Had to get another one after that.
     
  8. May 15, 2020 at 4:41 PM
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    Yeah, I have their wheel kit. I have to place a jackstand under the frame after I lift the wheel and then lower it.
     
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  9. May 15, 2020 at 4:42 PM
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    Yes sir, that small footprint worries me for sure. @Larmand has one and we were messing around with it one day, and its a good thing we opened the door otherwise the jack would've gone right through it. :rofl:
    I have an offroad base and slider adapter in my cart on Amazon right meow.
     
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    I have a winch for all that, the Hi-lift will be strictly for trail repair needs :D
     
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    RE: safe jack, just buy the jack from Amazon (same one) and the adapter from safe jack. lot cheaper.
     
  12. May 15, 2020 at 4:47 PM
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    You can get aluminum floor jacks and put a skid on them. Not quite 60lbs
     
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    yes to the offroad base. that's a must have.
     
  14. May 15, 2020 at 6:32 PM
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    Check this out: Powerbuilt 620471 6000lb, Unijack 6000Lb Unijack Powerbuilt https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GJJZ5NI/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdb_t1_Oi0VEb3T0JMW5

    Been using this for years. No issues. Tire rotations, oil change, transmission fluid drain and fill, installing bumpstops, front and rear suspension, axle replacements, brake jobs, etc has yet to fail me.
     
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    Ugh. I’ve tried a few jacks.:( The Powerbuilt Unijack and like fall just short of getting a 35” tire off the ground in front via frame rail. Safe Jack is nice and I still carry it, but safe, not so much imo.. This is my current jack, it gets stuff done.AADAC110-A7EE-4B48-806F-6AB67D95EF49.jpg
     
  16. May 15, 2020 at 8:20 PM
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    I was looking at that Jegs skid combo online, mainly for home use, but the skid can sure come in handy in the dirt if need be.
     
  17. May 15, 2020 at 8:20 PM
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    Forgot to mention that is excellent advice.
     
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    I set the jack to the highest adjustment and then crank away. Works for me on 35s.
     
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    Just bought the Pro Eagle jack from Discount Tire. Didn't even know they were a seller for Pro Eagle. Even more of a surprise was that I saw it on eBay first then tried to purchase it using my Discount Tire card. Wouldn't work so I messaged them and was told to call. Long story short I got it for $400 out the door w/free shipping. Who knew?
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    Those pro eagles are super nice!
     
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    I made myself one of these for my old land cruiser that had round sliders. On my tundra, i have square tube sliders, and will be cranking a few of these out. I was able to lift the entire side of my 100 series land cruiser using the hi lift. then placed jack stands under it to do bearings or brakes or something. But it works and is way safer for a hi lift using it on rock sliders.

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    Creative!
     
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    for the record, that is someone else's idea. But anyone with a welder can make it. super easy. and yes, very creative
     
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    I have a scissor jack. People say hilifts are versatile, they also suck at everything they can do and are extremely dangerous let alone a pain to move around. A scissor jack and come along are superior to a hilift imo. When you get to higher travel suspension setups, hilifts can't even lift a tire too. Pro Eagle are dope, if you have the room for it I'd take that but a scissor jack is small and cheap.
     
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    jacks off?
     
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    Both are 2 ton jacks. Lol.
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    I keep reading conflicting opinions online about two-ton versus three-ton jacks for newer pickups with the larger cab space and longer wheelbases. Some say two-ton is enough to lift one corner while others insist three-ton is better and safer. For over 20 years I had used an old, heavy, all steel, three-ton that finally gave out, so I have no experience with a two-ton. What is everyone’s experience and opinion on using a two ton for our Tundras?
     
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    More than enough. I have 6 ton jack stands that are huge overkill only because of their height. Jacks don't hold up the entire weight of the truck so a 2 ton is more than capable (provided it's in good working condition). Pro Eagle recommends 2 tons for all light duty rigs and only pushes 3 tons for larger service type vehicles
     
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    Good to know, especially since most two tons are less expensive than three tons.
     
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