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How to program TPMS?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by NorcalHntr, May 11, 2020.

  1. May 11, 2020 at 6:05 PM
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    I bought a set of trd pro wheels on facebook. The tires are in good shape so I just want to bolt them on. How do I get the Tpms programmed (tire shop obviously)? Can I do it myself? I was quoted $150 from dealer. Tire shop quoted $100
     
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    I'm pretty sure Discount Tire will be less than a 100 bucks. The programmer will cost more..
     
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    I believe the Techstream and cable may allow you to change it. The problem is that you would need to know the serial numbers for each sensor. That's where the scanner comes into play.
     
  5. May 14, 2020 at 5:50 PM
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    Thanks for the info.
     
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    No problem at all. Yeah its sucks for sure because you can't see the ID numbers with the tires mounted.
     
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    If one set of tires are for winter, another for summer, one for off roading, etc, a programmer may be worth it since you'd go to a tire shop quite a few times a year. Otherwise, look into the techstream software and cable for DIY.
     
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  8. May 14, 2020 at 6:02 PM
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    I got such a good deal on the wheels Im over worrying about the price of the switch over. I only paid $500 for the wheels with tires.
     
  9. May 14, 2020 at 6:06 PM
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    AA320E43-F499-4E38-8C73-36068A0EAEB5.jpg I switched mine out for some trd rock warriors. Tpms light is on but I don’t care. Never trusted the computer anyways.
     
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    I swapped my set of winter set of tires/wheels for the summer set yesterday. Using the Autel TS508 unit I bought this winter, I was able to relearn the different TPMS sensors to vehicle in about 15 min. And it would probably have only taken less that 10 min, if I hadn't goofed the procedure the first time. Autel scanner cost less than $200.00, and since I don't have a Discount Tire near me, the local tire dealers were quoting me between 25 and 50 bucks per wheel to do it for me. When I swap again in the fall, the unit will have paid for itself. Not to mention the convenience of not having to wait at a tire shop while they take my money to do it for me.
     
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    I’m interested in more info about this. How does it work? Do you have to have a certain kind of tpms sensor or does it work with all? Would really appreciate details.
     
  13. May 16, 2020 at 9:41 AM
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    Just ignore the stupid TPMS idiot light. Or get into the wiring harness behind he passenger kick panel and do the TPMS delete. Perfect instructions are here on the board. Just search.
     
  14. May 16, 2020 at 9:48 AM
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    Once you understand the right procedure, depending your vehicle, it is real easy. The scanner can read the sensor info on each wheel, and then write that info into the vehicle TPMS control unit. It can reset the system to read and clear any faults. It works with most factory and aftermarket sensors, and if you get Autel programmable sensors, it can copy the sensor info your vehicle already has into them. If you are interested, I would do a search on Autel TPMS scanners, and go to their site for more in depth information. Their site is well laid out, and has a lot of info. Once you purchase one of their scanners, and register it, you then have access to a lot of learning videos, and they have regular training sessions you can access online. You can buy one directly from them, or their are a lot of venders that supply them. They have a full line of units, from simple to full shop capabilities, depending on how much you want to invest. I got mine from an ebay seller, so the price was better.
     
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    Hey TechWrench, I'm glad you posted this here. I actually tried doing exactly what you just described but I'm having some trouble getting the sensors to work properly. I got an Autel TS508 a couple days ago and I purchased some aftermarket sensors - all from ebay. I got the sensors installed on the wheels at my local Midas and then attempted to use the tool to program them on the car. I went to the relearn feature and followed the instructions. After the unlock ECU and writing of the ID's in the ECU I get a message that says successfully programmed/relearned or something along those lines. Then I get a DTC C2112, 2113, 2114... I tried to clear the codes but they keep coming back. To test them out, I rapidly deflated the tires and only one of the sensors actually triggered the TPMS light... it's like the others don't even transmit - I am, however, able to read their ID's with pressure, temperature and battery status and all seem fine and give out the correct readings. Did you encounter any of these issues? Or what were your steps when you did this - maybe I'm missing something? Any help is greatly appreciated!!
     
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    I didn't see this post until late, so I will have to get my manual for the TS508 and check the exact procedure I used. It seems to me that there was a step, after the new sensor info was written to the ECU, to erase all DTC's, but not sure. Did you see that option and do It? Did you look up what the DTC's you get are about?
     
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    Yes, I erased the DTC’s but they are “current” not intermittent so they keep coming back. Yes, C2111 is Transmitter ID1 operation stop, 2112 is ID2 and so on. I can only get the left front tps to trigger the tpms light... I’m thinking it’s the sensors that are bad but it’s hard to say that for sure since they do actually transmit info about pressure, temp, battery and their ID #s... I attached a picture of what I get. I only got 3 out of 4 throwing this DTC - the 4th one is probably the one that actually triggers the tpms light. Thank you for your help!

    15D60B61-7718-43E8-8E6D-5802D31468FF.jpg
     
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    In your original post, you mentioned DTC's 2112, 2113, and 2114, which are ID2,3, and 4. The pic you just posted, indicate DTC's 2111, 2112, and 2113. Which are ID 1, 2, and 3. I have to check my manual, but I believe ID1=LF, ID2=RF, ID3=RR, and ID4=LR. So, in your original post, the DTC's indicate only the LF is responding, while in the PIC, the DTC's indicate only the LR is responding. So, 1st question, are you scanning the sensors in the correct order (LF, RF, RR, LR, and spare)? 2nd, When you scanned them, did you get a positive response, with a Green check on each one? 3rd, When you connected to the OBDII, did the relearn process appear to complete?

    I noticed you have a '17 Tundra. I believe the '17 uses a different sensor that the earlier models, and I am pretty sure it also has the capability to read 5 sensors, to include the spare. A you sure you got the correct sensors for your model year? And were all sensors the same type? I will check my manual in a bit, and get back to you if I find anything that might help.
     
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    oOK, after reviewing my manual, it looks like I followed the OBD Relearn procedure on pg 45. It worked on my '08. My only issue is the TS508 wanted to scan 5 sensors in this procedure, 4 wheels on ground plus spare. My vehicle does not have a sensor in the spare, which is the oem spare that came with truck, and according to my owners manual it isn't supposed to. So it took a few tries, but I finally just ignored the 5th scan and went right to connecting to my OBD and followed procedure (steps listed on TS508) and it worked for me. The 4 sensors I bought from ebay were Pre-programmed TRW devices, specifically to fit the steel wheels I intended to use for my winter tires. So once installed on the wheels, all I had to do was make sure each wheel was set to the tire pressure I wanted to run at before starting to scan each sensor in the order the TS508 wanted. I made sure I got a positive reading on each wheel before moving on to the next.

    From what I have read, the '17 Toyota TPMS system is a bit more elaborate than the one on my '07, so I can't speak to what your TPMS system can do, or how it exactly works. My system is only capable of storing sensor data for one set of wheels, so when I switch sets, I have to perform the relearn procedure each time, to delete the old sensor data and install the new ones. If none of this helps you, then maybe a call to the Autel help line is your best course of action.
     
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  20. May 31, 2020 at 8:38 AM
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    I got mine reprogrammed for $60CAD at the Toyota dealer.
     
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    Unfortunately, the closest Toyota dealer to me is about an hour away. And I tried calling three local tire dealers, none of them were much help. So, in my case, using your cost, next fall when I switch tires for the third time, my Autel TS508 will have paid for itself, and I didn't have to leave my driveway. And, when the 4 oem sensors in the original alloy wheels start to fail, I will order 4 more of the TRW sensors for $40.00, have them installed, and keep on trucking.
     
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    First off, thank you for your help - I really appreciate it!

    Now for the questions:
    1. Are you scanning the sensors in the correct order (LF, RF, RR, LR, and spare)? Yes, I follow the tool's order.
    2. When you scanned them, did you get a positive response, with a Green check on each one? Yes.
    3. When you connected to the OBDII, did the relearn process appear to complete? Yes, it completes every time.
    4. Are you sure you got the correct sensors for your model year? Yes, I tried different model years and the tool doesn't "see" them if I'm not on the correct option.
    5. And were all sensors the same type? Yes.

    I had the same issue with the spare the first couple tries - I didn't realize you had to scan it and wait for it to fail to get to the "connect OBD" portion of the relearn (I also do not have a TPS on the spare). Once I got past that, the first thing the tool does is to "unlock ECU" - this is where the whole dash becomes a Christmas tree, then writes the ID's, deletes the DTCs and then displays the "success" screen - this is all from the same page (45) you mentioned. On page 48 the last step says the TPMS icon displays gray - that's where my luck ends - it always displays RED. When I check the DTCs I see those annoying C211s...

    The errors that I got were 2111, 2 and 3 but in a previous try I managed to get 2112, 3 and 4 even though I followed the same order of scanning - not sure why. I was reading something about having to let them go to "sleep mode" (don't drive the car or move them in any way for at least 20 mins) and then try to activate.

    I have room for only 5 sensors - maybe Platinum Tundras have room for 2 sets? My dad's Lexus NX has room for 2 sets.

    I will try to put my original sensors IDs back in the ECU and see if that works. If that's also an issue then I'm either doing something wrong or there's something wrong with the tool - at that point yes, I'll call Autel.

    Thank you sir, if I ever figure it out I'll post my solution in case anyone else has the same issue - might be that I just have bad sensors.
     
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    It's $160USD at my local Toyota dealer and $80USD at my local Midas... at Midas they are using an Autel TS508, that's how I learned about this tool lol
     
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    AS far as I can see, you appear to have done everything right. One question I still have, is are you sure you got the correct sensors for your Model/Year. Your answer was "Yes, I tried different model years and the tool doesn't "see" them if I'm not on the correct option." That answer, I take to mean you selected the correct year/type of wheel sensor in the TS508 option prior to scanning them on the truck. What I was referring to was are you sure the sensors you got from ebay are the correct sensors for your '17 Tundra? Not sure exactly when, but some where in/around that model year, there was a Toyota part # change for the sensors. Not sure what the exact difference was, but that might be the the issue if you don't have the right sensors installed.

    Also another possible issue could be if you have the original sensors/wheels too close to the vehicle when you are scanning the new sensors. The signals from the original sensors might be interfering with the ECU reading the new ones.
     
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    Oh I didn’t know that. Well, I went on the Toyota genuine parts website and figured out what’s the part # for the sensors - that’s where I learned one costs $90...I know it’s $65 on Sparks but yikes. Then I went on ebay and found these with the exact same part number. So I think they should be the correct ones - I hope they are at least. I’ll give my local dealer a call and see what they say. And the original wheels are 21.3 miles away haha - that won’t be an issue.
     
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    Hopefully, the ones you got from ebay are functional aftermarket replacements for the Toyota oem. I am pretty sure if you ask a Toyota dealer, they will say you HAVE to get their official sensors, or they can't guarantee the replacements will work. I have heard that some Toyota service depts., will refuse to try to program any sensors but theirs. One other suggestion just occurred to me. When you scan them, does the TS508 give you a readout of each sensor. Mine are identified as TRW brand, signal frequency, specific individual ID number, and the PSI number it is reading. Check to see if all that info is read when scanned, and that each sensor has a different ID#. If the vendor sent you cloned sensors, and one or more have the same ID#, that would probably confuse the TPMS ECU. Also, did you by any chance try scanning the original sensors on the wheels you took off? If so, do you remember if they had the same signal frequency as the new ones?

    One more thought, from the Toyota parts site, they list two part numbers, 42607-0C070 for the Type A 20 degree sensor (for alloy wheels), and 42607-0C080 Type B (for steel wheels). From what I understand, the only real difference is the angle of the sensor to the valve stem and not the functionality. Do you remember which ones you got?
     
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    I scanned them and they all give out all that info: ID, temp, psi, battery status. They all have unique IDs too. But I did not Remember seeing the brand mentioned anywhere - I will double check that.
    I did not scan the originals yet, I will do it sometime this week though...
    I got the 070 part #...I have the alloy wheels.
     
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    One more thought, did you do the software upgrade to the TS508 when you registered it with Autel. I seem to remember the new software update had to do with newer vehicle compatability.
     
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    Yup, did that too. I’m very inclined to believe there’s something wrong with the sensors but I will try the original wheels and see how they behave - that will probably prove or disprove my theory.
     
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