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Bad CV angles

Discussion in '2nd Gen Builds (2007-2013)' started by Txrcsb, Apr 18, 2020.

  1. Apr 20, 2020 at 3:32 PM
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    Yes, but I was getting at is that suspension can stay in good order even with stock lower control arms. From what I’ve seen on many
     
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  2. Apr 20, 2020 at 3:33 PM
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    Do you know how much lift you're running in the front and what kit or kind of lift you have?
     
  3. Apr 20, 2020 at 3:34 PM
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    If those spacers are what the kit uses as a drop it doesn't look like enough given those CV angles
     
  4. Apr 20, 2020 at 3:35 PM
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    It can if you stay less than 3 inch lift most of the time. This literally varies from truck to truck for some reason. Some trucks stay stock with small lift and are fine and another with the same lift might have issues...... I've read that time after time
     
  5. Apr 20, 2020 at 3:35 PM
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    Nfab rds, some lighting.. Camburg tubular Uniball UCA, factory series 2.5 fox coil over resi shocks front set at 2.75”. 1” block rear with 2.5 factory series resi-fox shocks. Method standards on 315/70/17 Yokohama A/T G015. Upper ditch lights (XL Pro Bajadesigns) lower fog lights (Squadron sport Baja designs) bumper spots (Hella halogen spot lights)
    Yes they’re fox 2.5coil over w/resi and camburg uniball uca. They’re set at about 2- 3/4” of lift. That’s all there is installed in front
     
  6. Apr 20, 2020 at 3:37 PM
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    4CF48833-26CF-4806-AE2A-27A884A8A9FC.jpg
     
  7. Apr 20, 2020 at 3:38 PM
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  8. Apr 20, 2020 at 3:39 PM
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    Do you know what pound spring you have on those coilovers?
     
  9. Apr 20, 2020 at 3:39 PM
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    I haven’t dealt with lifted trucks in years but I know with ifs front suspension that if you go up very much , you usually went with new uppers lowers and spindles , a new lower cross member the works and it was quite pricey but it kept the axle geometry well within spec and kept things from binding and wearing.
     
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  10. Apr 20, 2020 at 3:43 PM
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    Yeah.. less than 3 inches on our trucks doesn't require that. 3 inches and above and next step is upper control arm..... this is talking about upper/ lower control arms only. The only time you hear about anyone buying lower control arms is if they damaged one or they bought a long travel kit which has both upper and lower control arms
     
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  11. Apr 20, 2020 at 3:45 PM
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    That’s why I’m here , so many people so much good info !
     
  12. Apr 20, 2020 at 3:47 PM
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    Yes.but that’s all spacer lift, which give no travel where needed that’s basically a suspension drop if any. And truck up on spacers makes it taller. Not my cup of tea. I really like function over form. But I’m seeing it’s a pain right now... and I can see that being needed with a 6” lift or something huge like that.
     
  13. Apr 20, 2020 at 3:49 PM
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    You do not need an aftermarket UCA with a lift kit. Does it make things look nice? Hell yeah but it isn't necessary unless alignment issues are present. For example, Readylift kits are designed to keep the stock upper. Learned that through personal experience lol
     
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  14. Apr 20, 2020 at 4:03 PM
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    Well I can’t use fox coil over with stock ucas so they kinda were needed. This problem could be even worse. Trust me I wouldnt have payed $700 bucks for just aesthetics
     
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    Did I miss what lift you have it at currently? Have you measured bottom of the fender to center hub yet? I know I'm throwing alot at you, just trying to get an understanding of what you've got
     
  16. Apr 20, 2020 at 4:11 PM
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    For sure. I've got Foxes and an aftermarket UCA. I'm just sayin in general.
     
  17. Apr 20, 2020 at 5:07 PM
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    Possibly, I posted up there they’re set at about 2-3/4” lift.
     
  18. Apr 20, 2020 at 5:18 PM
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    My drop carriage

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  19. Apr 21, 2020 at 5:25 AM
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    Yes this requires the use of "marine style worm drive clamps" I got a whole bunch of them from McMaster Carr in both sizes so I can pull boots off and reinstall without a crimp tool, retighten and adjust later too.

    Does not correct angle but at least attempts to keep the boots from tearing at the extreme angle. The CV is designed to run at angle, maybe handle less torque at the extreme angles, the only angle that kills a CV is OVER extended where it rubs shaft on the CV cups, that'll blow one up quick. The only other CV killer is debris contamination in the grease from torn boots so I try to just keep them in good shape.
     
  20. Oct 14, 2022 at 10:50 AM
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    I was getting pretty close to pulling the trigger on a 2.5 level up front, and not gonna lie, this thread scared the shit outta me…
     
  21. Oct 14, 2022 at 8:37 PM
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    Drop the front lift to 2 inch. I am running a 2 inch up front and my cv axles went from 2 degrees stock height to 6 and 7. The ribs on the boots still don't touch each other.
     
  22. Oct 15, 2022 at 2:59 PM
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    I assume I’d still be able to run 285/65r20 (34.6/11.2r20)? Why is it that someone can have a 3.5 lift up front with really modest CV angles, but someone can have a 3 up front with trash CV angles? I’ve seen many 3/1 levels with a diff drop, but the angle of the CVs seem to vary…
     
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