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Bad CV angles

Discussion in '2nd Gen Builds (2007-2013)' started by Txrcsb, Apr 18, 2020.

  1. Apr 18, 2020 at 8:09 AM
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    DFFF999A-2A58-44AF-9AE5-863B62DFD6FE.jpg I’m new around here so I have a lot of questions and I’m in need of help with my build at the moment since I have no friends with this type of knowledge regarding mid to long travel.
    so my tundra has fox coilovers set at almost 3” and my cv angles are terrible. I’ve used a diff drop and that didn’t really help from what I noticed. Boots are ripped and leaking and I’ve changed one cv out and ripped again. My lower control arms have seized cambolts and I’m not sure of maybe that would affect some of the cv problems but anything that can point me in the right direction is truly appreciated.
     
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  2. Apr 19, 2020 at 8:17 AM
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    what boots did you end up replacing the torn ones with? OEM or aftermarket? the cam bolt would not affect the CV problem. I have kings set to about the same height and I've never had a boot issue, CV angles were pretty neutral too, I actually just removed my diff drop as it was just there and not really doing anything besides changing the pinion angle of the front driveshaft. look into SDHQ CV boots, I heard they're a great product. or if you wanted to drop some coin, buy RCV axles, their boots are massive and super strong!
     
  3. Apr 19, 2020 at 9:38 AM
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    Help us help you and post pictures of your CV angles
     
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  4. Apr 19, 2020 at 9:49 AM
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    Torn boots is not a sign of bad CV angle. Old boots when lifted almost always tear. Unless your CVs are physically binding up and clicking you're fine, just get new CVs/or new boots.
     
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  5. Apr 19, 2020 at 9:53 AM
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    Welcome, nice truck.
     
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  6. Apr 19, 2020 at 11:33 AM
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    When I would turn the steering wheel to full-lock and/or articulate the front suspension fully I would get clicking/binding from the CV joints with my coilovers set to about 2.5" of lift. I took them down about 0.75" and it went away. Your truck has some years on it and nothing lasts forever so the CV boots being torn may not be caused by the lift. The cam bolts being seized wouldn't cause your CV joints to bind. Nice truck, fellow Regular Cab owner.
     
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  7. Apr 19, 2020 at 10:14 PM
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    Well I used on the first torn cv axle I used a napa replacement and it lasted a while but the boots are basically rubbing just from running normal. And yea one the passenger side might be still it’s first one. Truck has 217,000mi currently. I’ll get some pictures of the angles. Hell it even looks like my passenger side is almost back some instead of being straight with the wheel hub. But hanks for the input I’m gonna get the lca and cv axles redone here soon. Btw did some decent wheeling yesterday and didn’t get any binding surprisingly 5AD8683A-D724-4E3E-837B-D13C4A458EBB.jpg
     
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  8. Apr 20, 2020 at 2:14 PM
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    Nfab rds, some lighting.. Camburg tubular Uniball UCA, factory series 2.5 fox coil over resi shocks front set at 2.75”. 1” block rear with 2.5 factory series resi-fox shocks. Method standards on 315/70/17 Yokohama A/T G015. Upper ditch lights (XL Pro Bajadesigns) lower fog lights (Squadron sport Baja designs) bumper spots (Hella halogen spot lights)
    This is the driver side from rear view

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  9. Apr 20, 2020 at 2:17 PM
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    This is the passenger side from rear view also

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  10. Apr 20, 2020 at 2:21 PM
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    You said you have the drop kit installed? I've seen much better angles on slightly taller lifts
     
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  11. Apr 20, 2020 at 2:21 PM
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    They look pretty bad to me. Like I said I’m new to the offroad game but I’m mechanically inclined to know that cv axles should have natural angles. And I say this because I’ve seen other people’s vehicles on similar setups that still have regular lca and have damn near straight cv angles but anyhow. Thanks in advance. To anyone that can help me see the light to this that bothers me terribly to see. And yes I have a drop kit.
     
  12. Apr 20, 2020 at 2:22 PM
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    There is definitely more angle in that set up than most people ruin run
     
  13. Apr 20, 2020 at 2:25 PM
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    Yea, I’m confused why. Like I said I’ll replace the lower components including axles and see what happens. Granted the axle angle probably won’t change but I don’t know what else to try to atleast give me piece of mind to not ruin the cv’s
     
  14. Apr 20, 2020 at 2:27 PM
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    Get a pic of your drop kit.... maybe it's not installed correctly
     
  15. Apr 20, 2020 at 2:30 PM
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    Looks like a pretty steep angle to me , boots are most likely not tearing they are wearing themselves out due to the angle of the joint . Someone else please step in , are there different control arms he should have or some sort of relocation kit to get the cv shaft a a straighter angle ? I haven’t lifted any of my Toyota’s .
     
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    Possibly man, I’ll take a pic
     
  17. Apr 20, 2020 at 2:31 PM
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    Usually the drop kit fixes the angle.... this is why im curious if there is one or if it's installed incorrectly.... I've seen both
     
  18. Apr 20, 2020 at 2:32 PM
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    I was thinking more of a upper and lower control arm relocation kit .
     
  19. Apr 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM
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  20. Apr 20, 2020 at 2:39 PM
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    I’ve read a lot about lifting our trucks and more than a few have said when you go over 2-2.5 inches is when you start needed different control arms and such .
     
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    A couple tricks from the 4runner world.

    1.) Napa replacement CV shafts are not the same as OEM. While they might not change the angle (although they could with different tulip design I have no data to support that claim) they may not allow the same amount of angularity at full droop, and come with some inferior materials. I once rebooted OEM Toyota CV shafts with some parts store brand boots, maybe beck arnley, they ripped like 10k miles later. Rebooted with OEM boot kit and they lasted through when I sold it 60k miles later.

    2.) the small end of the boot clamps can be slid further down the axle shaft to alleviate some of the boot on boot rub where it's bunching.
     
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    I’ve seen many without different lowers, and all with afmkt uppers.
     
  23. Apr 20, 2020 at 2:42 PM
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    I’ve seen a company befor that sells a type of hose clamp for that. But would the angle still not be bad for wear internal wear?
     
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    I don't even see a drop kit installed lol...
     
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    I'm totally gonna try this right now since my front bumper is off
     
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    I see a spacer there at the mounts , what does the drop one look like ? Is it mor like a 3-4 inch spacer ? I’m asking cause I don’t know ?
     
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    The aluminum spacers under the diff bridge and the diff brackets. That’s all the “diff drop” comes with ‍♂️ Unless there’s one with more parts which I find odd because I’ve done a 3” level kit on an fj cruiser and the diff drop was basically the same.

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    Differential drop spacer .
     
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    Yeah that’s what I thought !
     
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    The upper control arm is what most people buy and that doesn't change the CV angle.... it's to get more caster most of the time but has more "adjustability" than stock to bring the alignment back into spec
     

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