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Front Brakes Warped...AGAIN!

Discussion in 'Product Reviews' started by Rwilk5, Apr 8, 2020.

  1. Apr 8, 2020 at 12:37 PM
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    Rwilk5

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    Purchased my 2015 Tundra and after about 5000 miles, noticed the pulsation in the steering wheel. After researching on this forum, discovered that this is a common problem for Tundras. Being a car guy and in the past doing my own work, broke down and purchased Power Stop slotted/cross drilled front rotors, calipers and pads and had a very notible garage install for me. Unfortunately, after about 30,000 miles, I'm back at the same situation.

    Upon purchasing the pads, I made sure that the rotors were broke in appropriately (did myself upon leaving garage), torqued to the right values (checked) and never brake through puddles and limit hard braking in wet weather. Oddly enough, left NE Ohio (wet time of year) about a month after the install and moved to the SW corner of Colorado (high desert) where it is very dry. I did tow a 5th wheel out to Colorado, but the issue did not appear until after a few months in Colorado...didn't tow upon arriving in CO.

    I am thoroughly convinced this is a Toyota Tundra issue. Does anyone have any additional advise for the third, maybe forth set of front brakes for a 109,000 miled Tundra, that is not driven hard? My next move is to get cheap-ass rotors and just change them out with the cross drilled and rotate after turning the cross drilled, when needed. Just FYI...it sucks going down a mountain with the steering wheel vibrating badly!
     
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  2. Apr 8, 2020 at 12:44 PM
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    Had similar experience to yours... After experiencing brake fade with the powerstop crap and a second set of warped rotors, I ended up ordering a reputable set of drilled/slotted rotors and went back with factory Toyota brake pads. Best thing I have done. Will go this route for now on.
     
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    Try Angle vaned rotors, they channel the air towards the center, faster and faster as vehicle speed increases for better cooling than straight vaned rotors. But yeah 4 sets in 120k or so miles is about par for a 'heavy' vehicle. Nothing to see here...
     
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  5. Apr 8, 2020 at 1:16 PM
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    Thanks guys, really appreciate the help and advise.
     
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    Not to be the grammar police but rotors don't warp. They just get brake deposits on them. You can typically do a 'rebedding' and get them good again. Also, I have watched a couple independent video studies on aftermarket brakes, blank, cross-drilled as well as slotted and most of them still perform worse than the oem blank rotors and pads...

    here's one of the videos if anyone is interested. Dull but pretty informative.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ8O2tJOGLE
     
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  7. Apr 8, 2020 at 1:39 PM
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    confirm you have warped rotors with a dial indicator. more often than not, they aren't warped. could be hub, could be deposited material etc etc. One thing that will deposit material is parking with really hot brakes. When I tow, I always am sure to let them cool down before I park, even if it's just slowly rolling for a few minutes. Race rigs, same thing.
     
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  8. Apr 8, 2020 at 2:30 PM
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    Great info! Now I have homework!

    Thanks!
     
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    You got hard evidence proof of that? Never seen a rotor with build up on it. Common sense tells me you are mistaken. Why do you think they turn a rotor on a lath type machine to resurface. Lets agree to disagree on that one Mr. Grammar Police.
     
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    I've never heard rotors that don't warp. Always figured if you park it while the rotors are hot, the part of the rotor that's covered by the brake pad will cool differently than the exposed part, which can warp the rotor. But I may as well watch some videos and learn a thing or 2.
     
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    not wrong in terms of saying rotors don't 'warp'. they don't. thats incorrect terminology. the correct term is usually runout or turnout, but warp is not correct. you are right that rotors can be resurfaced / machined / lathed to re-correct that surface irregularity in the rotor itself
     
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    I doubt you can actually see the build up. Maybe sometimes. For the race stuff, they get really bad pulses, pull the rotor, bead blast them, clean them up and put them back on. good to go.
     
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    I guess I’m lucky and haven’t had this problem yet on my 2015. I swapped pads at 40K and am now at 86K and probably need to change them again. But I’m troubled to hear of the problem you’ve had with powerstop rotors. I just put a set of those on my wife’s ‘07 GX470. Guess I’ll have to keep an eye on them.
     
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    It can happen, however, most "warped" rotors are due to uneven transfer of friction material from the pad to the rotor. Basically the pad hits a spot that has more grip.
    My wife's Honda Pilot was doing this and I fixed it with 120 grit sandpaper on my Ryobi sander followed up by a proper bedding.
    Common sense comes into play here....if the surface is damaged or no longer parallel, get it resurfaced.
     
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    Also make sure your calipers are
    not frozen or stuck giving uneven pad pressure. I have done only Akebono pads (equal to OEM) and high end rotors with good success.
    2015 crewmax with 85k and 2016 SR5 with 80k. 2001 Sequoia with 230k
     
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    Easy solution. Dont let the tire shop burn on the lug nuts with an air gun. :annoyed: check what torque specs are. Torque lug nuts in proper sequence and to the specs.:thumbsup: Start with new rotors and pads. Follow Burnishing instructions by brake mfg. Dont brake too hard for to long, excessive heat can warp em. Keep em cool, use trucks gears. Doing this has worked well on all my rides.
     
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