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Who's familiar with older Camry's?

Discussion in 'Other Toyota Vehicles' started by FirstGenVol, Jan 15, 2020.

  1. Jan 15, 2020 at 7:03 PM
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    FirstGenVol

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    I'm toying with the idea of getting an older Camry to have a spare vehicle and potential commuter. It seems early 00's Camry's are dirt cheap around here.

    • Are there any years I should avoid?
    • Any common issues?
    • Timing belts every 90k?

    This 01 is a manual which I assume is fairly rare.

    https://knoxville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/knoxville-2001-toyota-camry-le-5-speed/7051387070.html

    This one has a ton of miles but it's only $1200

    https://knoxville.craigslist.org/cto/d/knoxville-1997-toyota-camry-le/7049581507.html
     
  2. Jan 15, 2020 at 7:05 PM
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    They're getting old. there will be minor issues.. you shouldnt have too many issues with brake lines, but its something to check (toward the back by the gas tank they like to rot out.)

    The MZ v6 engines are damn near buletproof, just make sure oils been regularly changed, the do have a sludge issue, If you go Camry route the old 5SFE is a leaker, but a good runner. Valve cover gasket and the Distributor plug (unless you go really old) typically are what leak.)
    Not too many issues with transmission either. all around pretty solid cars, your just going to deal with common Old car issues like suspension noises and what not. but parts are easy to get and you can keep em running for dirt cheap
     
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  4. Jan 15, 2020 at 10:09 PM
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    I have family that have run multiple Camrys of this generation into the ground over many years. These people are notorious engine killers, and the ole Camrys kept chugging along for hundreds of thousands of miles. I have a very good opinion of them for sure.

    Also I think @Scuba has experience with these modest commuters as well.
     
  5. Jan 16, 2020 at 4:23 AM
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    I have a 1995 Camry wagon and it’s still running like a top. 150,000 miles. Bought it for 3000 6 years ago with 90,000
     
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    Timing belt for sure at least every 90,000
     
  7. Jan 16, 2020 at 8:08 PM
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    I have had a 97 4cyl and 99 V6.
    Honestly the best most fun boring car you can get.

    I wouldn’t go older than 96 (OBD2). Make sure the air vents change from floor->floor/face->face-etc. If they don’t the blend door actuator is cheap but a bitch to replace. Timing belts are about the only major thing to think about. The 5SFE is great but slow as balls in a Camry (great in a Corolla). The 1MZ V6 would be my only choice now after owning both. They get similar mileage and the extra 80HP is very much worth it. The 1MZ can have sludge issues if conventional oil was used and not changed regularly. I run synthetic in everything I own.
    The automatic transmissions in these cars are not bad at all. Very reliable if taken care of. I’ve driven standards all my life but didn’t feel like searching out for a V6 5speed and didn’t care because it was a commuter. Due to lack of engine power I would consider a 5 speed with the 4Cyl if possible.

    These cars are easily 300K mile cars.
    Gas mileage was pretty similar between the 2. Real world was 28/22 for the 4cyl and 27/18 for the V6.
     
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  8. Jan 18, 2020 at 11:05 AM
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    I loved my 2007 LE Camry. It was my commuter car, but also took me on a lot of memorable trips. I never quite got sick of that car, and happenstance had the car looking almost new when I traded it. I got to around 176,000 with it over the 11 years I had it, bought new.
    ‘07 was the year of the total Camry overhaul, when the look changed from reserved to a bit more aggressive and sporty.
    I did have to replace the alternator and the water pump, but both were done under warranty if I remember right. The 4cyl engine felt quick but not powerful, and a few years of Camry did get a limited recall for burning oil, which just requires you to add a bit of oil between changes.
    If you can, try to get a Japanese production Camry. They are distinct from North American cars because they have a small square plate on the front bumper that provides for a foreign tow attachment. The threaded attachment should be found in the tire change kit. Their construction is a bit different than NA cars, as I found out when I got T boned at about 140k. The collision shop had a helluva time making the NA donor panels fit because the body construction differs anywhere there is a seam.
     
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  10. Jan 18, 2020 at 3:43 PM
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    I had a 2004 Camry 306,000 when I sold it. Rocker panels rusted out. I drove that 3-4 days a week for a 80 mile daily commute. It was a excellent car, my favorite.
     
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    I loved the ‘01 Camry style. I had mine until it was 215k miles. I sold it and got a Ridgeline. My mechanic who worked on the car the whole time said that that was the best model of the Camry.

    I did timing belts every 90k and definitely replace the catalytic converters at around 200k. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    The only thing I have to add is the early 00’s 4cyl Camry, for some unknown reason, sound amazing with an aftermarket short ram intake
     
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    We had a 98 Camry we traded in at 190k. It was an awesome car. It had a minor oil leak that i honestly didn’t bother tracking down I just checked levels once a week. Awesome car it was a 4cyl automatic. Absolutely make sure you get the timing belt service done if it hasn’t been done and go ahead and have them replace pulleys/tensioners and water pump while they are at it. I did that on the last timing belt change at 180k cost me 6-700 bucks if I remember right. I wish we had kept that car it was a beast.
     
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    I bought a 1999 Camry V6 from a co-worker for $400. (He was going to donate it to Goodwill and that would have been his tax refund, so he said I could get it for that). I gave it to my son when he got his license. He ran it for about 6 months and then I traded it in on a 2013 Camry for him; also an excellent car. The 1999 had 165,000 miles with zero issues. The 2013 has 80,000 now and zero issues.
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    That 2013 has the 2.5.
    So did this 2010.. running happily along at [​IMG]
     
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    Do both the 4cyl and V6 having a timing belt and are they both interference engines?

    If I buy one it will be around $1000 and I likely won't invest much into it. I'll do fluid changes myself but can't see myself paying $600 for a timing belt on a car worth $1000-1500.

    Maybe this would be a good vehicle to learn how to do a timing belt job on...
     
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    The old Camry v6 is not interference. I’m
    Not sure on the 4 pot. But it likely isn’t
     
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    You will have to make sure you buy a car with a reliable service record. The one that I bought was from a co-worker who was the first owner and I knew the car since the day he got it. He was meticulous about maintaining the car. If I did not know anything about the car I probably would not have done it. Repairs can add up quick if the car was neglected.
    That being said, if I have to take a chance on a cheap\old car, Camry or Accord would be the only choices.
     
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    It's been declared the #1 dependable car as far as I know. Both engines are bullet proof. The v6 is a little better. Just more maintenance if you have to do spark plugs, or ignition coil in the later years. For a commuter the 4cyl is what I would choose. You will have timing belt at every 90k on both vehicles. The 4cyl just has those oil leaks after awhile, no big deal just replace with new and you will be good. If you like to shift and choose a manual, you will eventually have a clutch to change. I myself would stick to the automatic. 300k miles + cars. Of course, if you want a better commuter go with the Lexus ES300. Plenty out there cheap, and why not have a little class. It's just a luxury Camry.
     
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    You mean the 2.5L? That's what we have in our Rav4. It's been a good vehicle.
     
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    02-06 used the 2.4; the 2.5 is the next gen and my understanding is it had a few more issues more frequently than the 2.4 but research to make sure, maybe its just what I happened to read.

    I see lots and lots of 2.4s still going. I'd aim for an XLE model, all the trimmings included.

    I like wiki for this kind of general info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Camry
     
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    2.4 was used up to 2009. 2010 was the start of the 2.5.

    All then camrys 07 up suffer from oil consumption. If your going that new hunt one down that’s had a re ring. the 2.5 has no tsb (yet) but they’re having burning issues too.
     

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