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What have you done to your 1st gen Tundra today?

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by T-Rex266, Sep 7, 2015.

  1. Jan 15, 2020 at 8:54 AM
    rock climber

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    Based on your awesome budget retrofit, do you see any reason to go with the more expensive projectors?
     
  2. Jan 15, 2020 at 9:10 AM
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    Good question. I am pondering what to do with my next set of headlights now. I would probably do the acme h1 projectors next time. They are about $75 with shrouds. Not sure they are better or not, but I'd like to learn that.
    If I went with the d2 style bulbs, there are many options that looks good. I've been eyeing the G5 style projectors for around $75 also. My headlights aren't perfect, but with quality xenon depot bulbs and some tuning they put out some great and useable light. I'll try to snap a picture at night to show what I'm seeing now. I'd say it's like a on OEM headlight housing vs aftermarket. If you want to save money it's probably alright and if you want even better then there's money to spend on that too.

    I can't see it being too bad. I did a disc 8.8 on my old xj and I just cut the cables to size and used cable clamps. I think it worked better than stock keep stuff.
     
  3. Jan 15, 2020 at 10:35 AM
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    bmf4069 Yup, that's car parts in a dishwasher

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    The thing I'm wondering about the axle swap is if it addresses the rear axle seal/bearing issue? Is it the same type of axle with a pressed on bearing? The ease of doing discs over drums is appealing, but with the discs you also need the sequoia brake booster/ master cylinder thing. So that's an additional cost too.

    I think, IMHO, someone skilled in fabrication could do this fairly simply by swapping the whole axle and swapping the needed brackets/perches to the sequoia axle and replacing the booster.
     
  4. Jan 15, 2020 at 10:45 AM
    KarmaKannon

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    I'm really questioning of you in fact have to change the booster and master. I never did that with my XJ and it was much better than stock. I've also heard numerous account of people doing disc swaps without master or booster changes.
    There's enough sources saying it won't work, without any really good specifics that I might just have to do it.
    I'm thinking the thread title should be "tundra rear disc unicorns for under $200"
     
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  5. Jan 15, 2020 at 10:52 AM
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    Darkness Allergic to white

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    Interesting that we've been looking at their kit and a 15% off appeared
     
  6. Jan 15, 2020 at 10:56 AM
    bmf4069

    bmf4069 Yup, that's car parts in a dishwasher

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    It may not need it, that's just me going off what I read too.

    Personally, I don't think it'll give any massive gains in performance. If the brake load is split 70/30, and this mod increases the rear performance by 10%-30%, then it would be a 3%-9% increase.

    I'm sure I'm trying to oversimplify or have my numbers wrong, but I don't see it as justifiable from a performance stand point. But getting rid of the drums would be why I'd do it.
     
  7. Jan 15, 2020 at 11:00 AM
    KarmaKannon

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    Performance on paper might not reflect the reality that most drum brakes aren't adjusted correctly. I know I don't do mine very often. Discs just adjust themselves more or less if they are bled. I'm with you though, to get rid of drums it's worth a couple hundred dollars, some blood, some choice words, and some time.
     
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  8. Jan 15, 2020 at 11:07 AM
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    These are the ones I've been eyeing. https://www.lightwerkz.net/index.php/components/hid-projectors/bixenon-q5r-projectors-1889.html

    Can you post up the ones for $75?
     
  9. Jan 15, 2020 at 12:56 PM
    ESTundra937

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    Awesome, thanks for pointing them out. I'll get some ordered. :thumbsup:
     
  10. Jan 15, 2020 at 1:16 PM
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    I'm officially giving up on these Katana LED's for now. I went ahead and put my Slyvania halogens back in. Does anyone recall if they have to go in a specific way? I have them installed but I can't tell yet if they are putting light out a specific direction.
     
  11. Jan 15, 2020 at 2:32 PM
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    I don't know what part of the world @Professional Hand Model is in now, but if he was here I'm sure he could help.
     
  13. Jan 15, 2020 at 5:02 PM
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    I'm just asking if the normal halogen bulbs are directional at all. Or is it fine as long as they are locked in place with the little metal clip.
     
  14. Jan 15, 2020 at 5:05 PM
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    FrenchToasty The Desert rat, 6 lug enthusiast

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    If there’s a return it needs to go on the bottom. I’m sure that’s not the right word, but the filament needs to be on top
     
  15. Jan 15, 2020 at 5:17 PM
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    lsaami Let ‘er buck

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    Is the rear axle/differential in a 4x2 truck and different from a 4x4 truck?
     
  16. Jan 15, 2020 at 5:43 PM
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    There should be 3 tabs that need to go into the correct holes or else the bulb won't sit flush and give the right amount of light.
     
  17. Jan 15, 2020 at 5:53 PM
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    Halogen bulbs are omni-directional. As long as you align the tabs of the bulb with the cutouts of the mounting hole, you're good to go. All else fails, owners manual shows the how to of replacing bulbs.
     
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  18. Jan 15, 2020 at 6:11 PM
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    That's a good question. Are you still trying to diagnose that vibration? Thinking about doing a swap?
     
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    No.

    gears may be different though. But it’ll bolt up
     
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    [​IMG] Tundra getting Cadillac horns...
     
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    I think the passenger side has a little right/left bulb shimming needed still, but the hot spot is much more useable now. I also snapped a shot of my switchback/drl LEDs with my headlights on. I think they have a pretty cool look to them. I'll probably throw a little amber in there somewhere on the grill.
    I also wired up my auxiliary fuse box under the center console. That should come in handy for my new bun warmers ;)

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    Door panels will be coming off for the new mirrors so I figured might as well get some of this installed while Im at it.
     
  23. Jan 15, 2020 at 9:33 PM
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    New mirrors?
     
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    I'm on my 3rd 1st gen and I've never felt the brakes to be weak. When I bought my 2001, my friend had a Chevy 1500 and would razz me about the drums but all the contemporary magazine tests had the Tundra stopping 7-10ft shorter than the Silverado 1500.

    From 2002 Car and Driver:

    "Toyota offers fewer options than the others, and only one V-8, a 4.7-liter twin-cammer. It's a silky performer with enough punch to match or outrun the others of our group in every acceleration test, including the 1000-pound load. In braking, too, the Tundra outperformed, stopping from 70 mph in 189 feet. Fuel economy over our 450-mile drive was about midpack at 13 mpg."

    "Apart from the suppleness of its suspension, the Silverado's most impressive feat is the performance of its 4.8-liter base V-8. Although it couldn't keep up with the cammer Toyota, this proven pushrod design reached 60 mph in 9.2 seconds, easily outran the 4.7-liter Ram, and pulled ahead of the F-150 when both were loaded with 1000 pounds. Braking performance weakened substantially when the load was added, however, from second in the rankings at 196 feet from 70 mph when empty to last place at 222 feet."

    https://www.caranddriver.com/review...am-ford-f-150-toyota-tundra-comparison-tests/
     
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    didn't realize this stuff was from the motherland....makes me think twice about Putin it in my truck :p
     
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    Persudeded the cam tabs kinda back to where they belong. I’ll try and get it better later if I can get a piece of steel to fit between the 2 to make it look prettier

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  28. Jan 15, 2020 at 10:54 PM
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    Ha! Never even noticed that!
     
  29. Jan 16, 2020 at 4:29 AM
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    Outright breaking numbers don't matter that much (unless they are grossly disparate). More important to me, assuming outright numbers are close, is feel at the pedal, which has not been great on any of my Tundras. I'm on my 3rd Tundra too. I had my 2002 at the same time as my FIL had a 2001 GMC 1500 that I also drove regularly. That brake feel was significantly better to me.

    Also, ya know what that article doesn't mention? Despite their outright stopping distance performance, those 2000-3.5 Tundras were so poorly designed they would go on to eat rotors like Rebel Wilson eats donuts... :)

    Glad you like yours, it will save you alot of money...:thumbsup:
     
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  30. Jan 16, 2020 at 6:05 AM
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    Bingo. The brake pedal on my truck travels a significant distance before actual braking takes places. I've had to slam the brakes a few times and it's left me less confident than any vehicle I've ever owned. Even my POS 91 4Runner. I've got a Mityvac on the way to my house. I'm going to try one last time to bleed the brakes and see if there is any air trapped in the system that I missed when I installed the wheelers brake lines.

    Same here. It pains me to admit it, but my step dad's 2005 Frontier provides a nicer driving experience than my truck. The brakes are great, and even though it's a V6, it has more felt power and throttle response. It's been a good truck through 200,000 miles.
     
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