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I have no interest in a hybrid tundra

Discussion in '2.5 Gen TRD Pro (2014-2021)' started by Gts bruce, May 26, 2019.

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    If it is hypothetically 21 mpg freeway, thats pretty sad vs the 18 mpg my truck got with stock tires on highway.

    3mpg isn’t life changing. I wish just one of these companies would make a midsize truck that was heavier duty and capable. The first gen tundra was a good compromise, less weight and less wind profile. Engine is only a factor for mpg, not everything
     
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  2. Nov 24, 2019 at 6:04 PM
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    Talked to TRD NASCAR engine builder over the weekend again and I asked him what the powerplant will be. He told me back in April it would be a diesel electric once the EPA gave the go ahead. They have not, so the new Tundra is going to be a Twin turbo V6 hybrid, 30MPG, trailing arm rear suspension with air bag assist (like the Dodge) and have a 12,000 lb towing capacity.
     
  3. Nov 24, 2019 at 8:42 PM
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    Bummer. Hard pass on that.
     
  4. Nov 26, 2019 at 8:35 PM
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    I bought a ego electric mower last year and it blows gas mowers away. No fluids, folds up for storage, cuts front and back with 1 charge, and has lights so I can mow after dark. So its the future for sure.
     
  5. Nov 27, 2019 at 2:17 AM
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    GODZILLA Hail to the King, Baby.

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    Get a horse. It'll mow AND fertilize your lawn with no user interface required at all. :drool::transformer:FUTURE:transformer::drool:

    Of course that is a joke. Just saying that lawnmower tech may not be what I want a truck to be based on. I like the idea of saving fuel costs, but I love having a V8. I'm willing to pay the price for it. That said, I don't really have a dog in this fight, as I am hoping my Tundra outlives me. :D
     
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  6. Nov 27, 2019 at 2:32 AM
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    I remember when the 2nd generation Tundra came out and I bought one. The Truck folks were all about how the Tundra was not a real truck and that the innovations were froo froo, but I knew several who had the 1st gen and swore by them. Some of my friends with their F150, Ram, and Silverado have long since gotten rid of their trucks. Mine is still going strong.

    I would be open to new tech but I also have a problem with trashing something that will probably be perfectly servicable 10 years from now (it is 2007 model) and the prices. WOW! In my 60s with a burnt mortgage and no consumer debt.....not where I want to go. From a social responsibity point it would be good to know the break point. At this point in my life, a truck has a lot to offer that a passenger vehicle does not. A lot of energy and resouces go into building a vehicle. I would love it if they were built with retrofit and upgrading them in mind.
     
  7. Nov 27, 2019 at 2:45 AM
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    GODZILLA Hail to the King, Baby.

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    Now THAT is genius.
     
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    I've got two Tundras and together they will outlast me too. We drive 300 miles per day on inspections so an all electric if done right could be an option. But I'll keep my Platinum, sounds too good to part with.
     
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    the only problem I have with all electric, as a hunter and fisherman, is the chance that I can’t get home because I run out of power. I currently have a plug in Prius to offset my gas hog, which honestly costs me nothing due to my savings in gas, but I’m constantly running out of electricity. I knew this would be an issue for me, which is why I went plug in Prius and not Tesla (though I yearned for a Tesla).

    I’m in for the hybrid, all the way. But, I’m not sure I’ll go first gen - that’s really what’s worrying me about this truck. I love my Tundra, love the reliability, but if I buy the hybrid I wand to know it can do a million miles.
     
  10. Jan 3, 2020 at 5:36 AM
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    Even with how proven the Prius system has been? I too have a standard Prius and I would jump at a first gen, but my wife is the one that is due for a new vehicle and all 3 of our cars are paid off.
     
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    What's wrong with liking the older technology?
     
  12. Jan 3, 2020 at 8:24 AM
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    Absolutely nothing, but there is a time for it. What wrong with adapting to newer technology? Look where we are now by being able to adapt. If we kept that logic, we would still be flying with propeller driven airplanes and steam locomotives.

    You and I are chatting thru a box that is just sending electrical current and 0's and 1's and that happened within the last half centrury. Our cell phones have more computing power than the Apollo rockets, and look how those have changed in the past 20 years. Hell, they really aren't cell phones anymore, they are small computers that you can make a voice call on.

    I'm just saying that there is a place for old tech. But for the most of us that don't use our truck as a truck, and I would say that's a good 75% of us, a hybrid or complete battery power truck would fit the bill.
     
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    How funny will it be one day to see someone driving down the highway with a gas generator in the bed of their truck with the truck plugged into it....is that considered a hybrid too :)
     
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    But that's the point. If more people get on board with a different technology, the infrastructure will be there to where you wont have to have a generator in the bed. Supply and demand.
     
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    I'm fine with the advancements, but I hate when it becomes a requirement. I like having the choice, and I am one of those "V8 rumble" lovers. Grew up around V8s and so there is a certain magic to it. I am fully aware of the advancing tech, pros and cons, but I still like the V8. Bought a WRX over a Challenger RT for practicality, and always had a nag in the back of my mind that I missed out not getting that Hemi.

    It's a bit presumptuous to imply that a preference for a particular engine equates to an opposition to new technology.
     
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    I agreed on the requirement aspect. And of course this is a speculation. If anything, hopefully, they will offer both a Hybrid and a V8 option.
     
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    We have a new gen hybrid Rav4 is our household, it reminds me of my former POS jetta TDI. On the highway You push the gas and it goes, no delay, no complaints, holds speed on most inclines with little input. Pretty awesome. It will get 35mpg hwy so not so sure a tank of a tundra will get 30mpg but we can hope.
     
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    Possibly yes. But how old is the current car by average across the entire country? 7-10 years? So we are 10,15,20 years away from the average car being electric?

    Also, do we have enough rare earth metals to make that many car batteries?
     
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    That's why I've been a bigger fan of going Hydrogen vs. electric.
     
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  20. Jan 3, 2020 at 6:17 PM
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    Devcom Miles per Gallon? More like Smiles per Gallon!!

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    With the Chicago Auto Show coming up soon we might get our answers assuming they unveil the next gen there.
     
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    I have a 14 Avalon Hybrid and it gets 45.3mpg over the time i've owned it from new. It's my daily driver and lets me accumulate carbon credits:rofl: to drive my new 2020 Tundra Limited V8 (just replaced the 2010 4.6L V8) on weekends.:yes:. The Avalon had a few minor interior faults that were covered under warranty but all in all a super reliable car. Never let me down. With regen braking that pads are not even below 90% at 46kmi. there is no belt on the engine, electric A/C, brake booster, water pump.With the electric drive the ICE motor runs less and gets assistance which drops the wear on the ICE motor. I had a Hybrid Camry in 2012 and it was also great. Traded to an Avalon for more room. There are plenty of Avalon hybrids way over 100k mi including taxis in NYC. There is an old hybrid camry on the showroom floor at the dealer nearby with ~486k on it and looks really nice ~2008. The battery and engine power combined is great in a full size Avalon and very near the 6cyl performance. I used to race stock cars, now I strive form mileage in the Avalon. But I do miss the V-8 and there is no replacement for the sound and feel of the 5.7L. It may be a dying thing but I sure like it while I'm here.

    Toyota knows their stuff with Hybrid drive systems, but towing and hauling has to be tough engineering challenge for a hybrid drive. Toyota had committed to having a Hybrid version of all their USA vehicles by 2020 so it looks like that won't happen and that was back in the early 20teens. So I think they are still on that path.

    I'd like to think a Tundra Hybrid would be a good option, and Toyota is the one I'd trust to do it. For now though I'll cling to my V8 :cheers:and see what comes with the next Gen Tundra.
     
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    it will be interesting to see what they do, I do love a V8 you can't beat 2 cylinders always in the power stroke for smooth power.
     
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    I have 2007 Lexus RX 400H with 130,000 miles and my wife has a 2006 RX 400H 160,000 miles. I'm sold on the reliability, power and accelerationof the Hybrid and the 26 MPG doesn't hurt either. What really surprised me was the power in the mountains. You don't downshift or press harder on the accelerator. The electric motors kick in and the car keeps the same speed.

    If they come out with a Hybrid I'd be first in line.
     
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    Pretty much what I've heard.
     
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    Ill stick with the V8.
     
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    You can use your truck for whatever you want. Some of us like simple trucks with gas engines and don't appreciate being forced undesirable options.
     
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    If they could just keep the extra costs hybrid equipment to say $1000, then it would be a Winner for all. Dreaming....

    After all these years of Toyota hybrids I would have expected costs to drop significantly enough.

    We've got to work Smarter not Harder. Regardless the future has compelling options coming, WooHoo!

    Luck and enjoy those Toyotas. : ^ )))
     
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    From a search I did at a local dealer https://www.pappastoyota.com/search...1&mk=63&tp=new&tr=124&tr=2080&tr=6748&yr=2020 the price difference isn't much and that's got me thinking I put on around 30,000 miles a year on my Tundra divided by the 17 MPG I get times $2.20 a gallon comes up to almost $3900 in gas. Now take on the 10 years for the battery life. The unknown is what the oil change will be like on a hybrid but we know what it cost for a Tundra.
     
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    I think V8 gas engine's days are numbered.

    Hybrid, in my opinion, is a temporary gap solution. It is more complicated with 2 driving motors, even though Toyota has done an excellent job in terms of reliability. I would suspect that Prius Prime (plug-in hybrid) will get larger and larger batteries in coming years. Their existence will become pointless when the electric infrastructure matures.

    The number of moving parts in the gas engine drive train is typically 10,000. Electric drive train has about 18-20 moving parts. It is inherently more efficient and reliable. I hope Toyota goes fully electric. With their reputation for reliability, it would be awesome. But I don't think Tundras will go full electric (at least this time around).

    I think the future belongs to electric vehicles. Two things that held back the electric vehicle adoption was the short drive range and the lack of electric chargers. Now I see EVs coming out with 4-500 mile range and even in rural PA, I see chargers appearing in places. It will be interesting to see what happens.
     
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    Keep the v8 Alive !!!
     

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