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Diesel Tundra 2019?

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by 1UPPER, Dec 3, 2016.

  1. Jan 4, 2017 at 10:45 PM
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    None, yet....
    Quite a few people know. Development usually starts 3-4+ yrs prior to model launch.
     
  2. Jan 5, 2017 at 8:15 AM
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    I would jump on a Tundra coal burner right meow if offered!!
     
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  3. Jan 5, 2017 at 8:58 AM
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    yep bank account is running low from it..
    Already heard Toyota has a steam engine they are working on...

    NEXT.. SUBJECT.
     
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  4. Jan 5, 2017 at 9:36 AM
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    Flux capacitor!
    I don't get why anyone gets upset over people discussing the next gen Tundra model and what the motor may be. If the subject on the forum doesn't interest you then don't click on it.
    Plus everyone knows the next Tundra will be solar powered anyways. Haha
     
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  5. Jan 5, 2017 at 9:53 AM
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    Honestly I could care less what they come out with next, but tell meow I can get one for fur free!:rimshot:
     
  6. Jan 5, 2017 at 10:02 AM
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    I'd only buy a diesel tundra if it had the Power Stroke. And they should Frankenstein it with Chevy's Allison tranny. Duramax isn't terrible but anything's better than a Cummins.
     
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  7. Jan 5, 2017 at 10:55 AM
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    yep bank account is running low from it..
    Agreed.. but Navistar 7.3 only. Navistar 6.0 sucked.

    Duramax is isuzu.. they are good engines.

    Cummins =come a part.
     
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  8. Jan 5, 2017 at 2:46 PM
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    The 6.7L Ford isn't bad from 2011-2014. In 2015-16 and most likely on the 17', when the truck goes into DPF regeneration, all the extra fuel is dumped in the drivers side head. Daily driving a Ford newer than 2015 is most likely going to end you up in the poor house. The valves get burnt since it usually stays in regen for a long time.

    The DM are solid motors if left alone. The people that start tuning the shit out of them find the limitations rather quickly around 550HP. Allison 1000 has been around a looooonnnnnggg time. mid-70s design and commercial use since mid-80's.

    Cummins, yep, POS fuel systems, DEF/DPF systems that will cost you like no other. If I were to buy a Dodge (notice I didn't say Ram), it would be a 07 with the 5.9L. After that, it went really downhill.

    Seriously people, if you really want a diesel and the math works out (truck cost, fuel mileage, maint) then go get one. Plenty of good options out there. Personally, most people want what they shouldn't have and the Tundra fits the bill just fine.
     
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  9. Jan 5, 2017 at 4:57 PM
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    I love diesel... They are capable of pulling the gates off hell.
    I miss my 7.3 and somewhat regret getting rid of it. Oh well.
    I was just horse assing around earlier with the whole"meow" thing.
    Anyways, have a wonderful evening
     
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  10. Jan 5, 2017 at 5:15 PM
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    I like diesels that aren't touched by the EPA. Modern diesels are nightmares. Everything that goes wrong with them seems to be EPA related.
     
  11. Jan 5, 2017 at 8:17 PM
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    You would be amazed at the leap forward in tech from your 7.3L truck.
     
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  12. Jan 5, 2017 at 8:24 PM
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    Towed a bobcat here with a 12k rated trailer that is dual axle and about 1.25 ton. Also towed with the same trailer a newer Bobcat S750 (8900lbs) with bucket, hydraulic auger drive and 24" auger bit. I was overrated per se but it towed it well on highways and city even without trailer brakes. Definitely could feel it but did better than a Silverado that would buck it around.

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  13. Jan 5, 2017 at 8:42 PM
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    Flux capacitor!
    I was told by the local equipment rental places that DPS in Texas will ticket any 1/2 ton pick ups for hauling a trailer with a skidsteer or bobcat. Not sure if thats entirely true. I did pull a skidsteer on my 2012 Tundra. Yes it can pull it but it's not something I would want to do again. Mainly because I didn't have trailer brakes on it.
     
  14. Jan 5, 2017 at 8:43 PM
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    Without trailer brakes?

    :rolleyes:
     
  15. Jan 5, 2017 at 8:45 PM
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    I guess that is true and depends. DPS saw me on the freeways here several times and never had an issue. However i still drive in the slow lane knowing it is loaded. I fixed the trailer brakes but still drive like i dont have them, carefully.
     
  16. Jan 5, 2017 at 8:46 PM
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    Yes without them. Had to tow it until i had time to fix them. It was a bad ground. Most of the braking however with IBC 4.5 setting is done by the truck.
     
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    In Colorado Springs, I have seen a metric assload of people towing the big skidsteers and DOT pulling them in. I have yet to see one leave.

    I had to rent the smallest bobcat one could rent so they would let me tow it with my 1/2 ton...and I was the exception, not the rule.
     
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    Another failure on Toyota's part.
     
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    Metric....assload. love it.
     
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    Duh Tundra
    I think I would get a tundra again if one it was a diesel and two it had a boxed frame. This whole C channel crap is a pain.
     
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    I enjoy the IBC. Its not a traditional P3 brake controller which tugs due to so much gain which i researched is more dangerous. I can change the gain on the IBC to be the same as the P3 tug.
     
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    I would adjust the gain down then. My trailer never jerks unless I set it up that way (which is not very often, more situational).
     
  23. Jan 6, 2017 at 10:56 AM
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    My 2 cents: don't care about a diesel in a 1/2 ton unless it doubles gas mileage and has no weight penalty and minimal cost penalty so I am not part of the target market. I would like to see the Tundra shed some weight and gain some gears, improve infotainment and offer some more a-la-carte items on options list. Like myself, a little weight loss in the Tundra would not be a bad idea and more gears without sacrificing reliability would help mpg and driving experience. I'd like to buy heated seats as a stand alone item. Stuff like that would make Tundra better. I'm talking about incremental improvements that don't sacrifice reliability and character of the truck.
     
  24. Jan 6, 2017 at 12:18 PM
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    wait what????? Another Tundra diesel! Hell I'm still paying for my Crewmax! This forum is gonna cause me to go broke!
     
  25. Jan 6, 2017 at 12:38 PM
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    I wouldn't want more gears. More problems with shift point mapping, shifting (up/down), more gears/physically smaller gears, more failures. My Acura has a 9-speed and good lord it shifts a ton and has to hunt for gears or runs through the gears like its not even there. The Lexus IS-F when it first came out with the 8-speed hunted a ton too with its 5.0 V8.
     
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    Look, at one point, automatics started out with 3 gears and they were crap too. But things improved, technology advanced, and bugs got ironed out. You and I both want the tundra to have an 8 or 9 speed auto, just not one that has issues. That's why those bugs should get ironed out in the Lexus line first, then trickle down the technology after it has been fixed. The hunting of gears is mostly an issue of software calibration. Look at the ZF 8 speed that is in almost every german luxury vehicle. That autobox is very reliable and can be programmed to shift marvelously. Toyota should improve their transmissions but do it wisely and after it is well tested.
     
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    The ISF shifts awesome! I drove....errr...hot rodded the piss out of a buddies. That car was amazing.
     
  28. Jan 6, 2017 at 1:37 PM
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    See - software fixed the issues already.
     
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    Well, I also drove the car as intended...:devil:
     
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    None, yet....
    The shedding some weight part I agree with and is actually a possibility. The problem with this is that weight makes a stronger truck. Better towing, bigger components, etc, etc.

    Don't hold your breath for stand-alone or a-la-cart style packaging man. This isn't what Toyota does. Period. Look at literally every other car out there and the options available and you will notice that its ALL in packages. The reason for this is that it keeps manufacturing costs down. When the car goes down the line, less things get added and less complexity of the pitches in the assembly line are physically present. Considering that Toyota is always looking to stream line manufacturing more and more, I wouldn't hold my breathe. If you want a-la-carte, then go to GM. My understanding is that you can still order in that method with them, with literally any option if you pre-order.
     
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